For me it's a toss up between Foreman and Shavers.
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Originally posted by OCPancho View PostForeman.
He stopped Frazier and Chuvalo.
Need more proof?
Sometimes people paint Foreman as a dumb brute but when he fought iron chinned chuvalo, he went to the body a lot and didnt just head hunt like a lot of power punchers do. It hurts just watching poor chuvalo curled up in the corner taking those shots to the ribs.
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It’s never mentioned as it “hidden” by the camera angle but watch Foreman vs Lyle. After Lyle is knocked down the first time, gets up, and as Foreman walks towards him to resume fighting look at that Herculean left hook to the body Foreman hits him with. With George’s incredible power in general that had to be one of the hardest body blows in boxing history.
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Originally posted by el*** View PostSometimes people paint Foreman as a dumb brute but when he fought iron chinned chuvalo, he went to the body a lot and didnt just head hunt like a lot of power punchers do. It hurts just watching poor chuvalo curled up in the corner taking those shots to the ribs.
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Originally posted by el*** View PostSometimes people paint Foreman as a dumb brute but when he fought iron chinned chuvalo, he went to the body a lot and didnt just head hunt like a lot of power punchers do. It hurts just watching poor chuvalo curled up in the corner taking those shots to the ribs.
So George got an Ivy league boxing education so to speak lol.
Heres an interesting aside: If one watches Dempsey, and Tyson who studied Dempsey's methods, one technique they use is when the opponent turns away from a hard punch, they will pivot, stepping around to the position where the guy is heading to avoid the shot...waiting there with a punch. So they move around the opponent to the next position ln a semi-circle.
Liston and Foreman do something entirely opposite. When they catch the guy they take both hands and turn the opponent into the next punch. So instead of them moving into position, they move the guy into the desired position.
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Interesting observation. I always admired Dempsey’s hook. When you look at the blows in the 7th round vs Sharkey and Tunney 2. So short fast and especially if you look at the hook that brought Tunney down Dempsey literally throws the weight of his body behind the blow. AND THEN is so quick he is able to land three or four blows before Tunney hits the canvas. Awe inspiring.
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Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View PostInteresting observation. I always admired Dempsey’s hook. When you look at the blows in the 7th round vs Sharkey and Tunney 2. So short fast and especially if you look at the hook that brought Tunney down Dempsey literally throws the weight of his body behind the blow. AND THEN is so quick he is able to land three or four blows before Tunney hits the canvas. Awe inspiring.
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Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View PostOnly one fighter scared me in terms of punching power. I watched Foreman train in the mid 70’s. He hit a 300 pound heavy bag like it was nothing. The sound of his blows were thunderous off that bag. I weigh about the same as prime Foreman and have done lots of work on standard heavy bags. Seriously the one time I tried hitting a 300 pound bag I could not move it (barely) and after a few blows my shoulders felt as if they were dislocated! Anyway I’ve watched Ali, Frazier, Shavers and Tyson in training and none compare with what I saw that day watching George. Most were faster than Foreman but none offered his raw power.
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