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  • #71
    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    Most fans don't see Wilder as the most dangerous HW in the game. Most fans don't even know who the fuck Wilder is.

    That last paragraph you wrote in just insane .. literally insane!
    Oh pull your knickers out of your crack and go back to your lukewarm ale.

    Everybody who watches the heavyweight game knows it, I've even heard Bunce and other British commentators admit it.

    He ain't the most skilled, doesn't have more belts, probably ain't managed or promoted that well, got a corny mask thing going on, and yes...the "Bombzquad" thing just makes me snicker.

    But he is the most dangerous cat out there and if that weren't the case, there wouldn't be this thread about him.

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    • #72
      Wilder is saying every day how badly he wants to KO AJ in the first round and then says 50/50 or no fight so it sounds like BS to me. AJ can fight any number of guys besides Wilder and make huge money. He doesn't need Wilder. Wilder can't make even a third as much as AJ makes per fight no matter who he fights other than AJ. So if Wilder really believes in himself he would gladly except much less than a 50/50 split to fight AJ. If he really KOs AJ then he becomes the man and starts making much more money every fight. If Wilder doesn't fight AJ then he continues to make average money per fight while AJ continues to make huge money even if he never fights Wilder. In short, AJ doesn't need Wilder to make the real big purses but Wilder does need AJ unless he wants to continue to play it safe and only fight lesser fighters and keep his WBC title while making much less money than he would start making if he beat AJ.

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      • #73
        Lets make it simple.

        Joshua is making 15+ mil per fight.
        Wilder is making 1.5 mil per fight.

        Who needs who more?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by club fighter View Post
          Oh pull your knickers out of your crack and go back to your lukewarm ale.

          Everybody who watches the heavyweight game knows it, I've even heard Bunce and other British commentators admit it.

          He ain't the most skilled, doesn't have more belts, probably ain't managed or promoted that well, got a corny mask thing going on, and yes...the "Bombzquad" thing just makes me snicker.

          But he is the most dangerous cat out there and if that weren't the case, there wouldn't be this thread about him.
          Are you really as dumb as that?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Are you really as dumb as that?

            Dont bother lmao

            There's a bunch of those in the thread ...next thing you know ...someone will come in and say that Wilder has the best trunk selection so he should get the 50-50

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              Comparing two PPV fighters to 2 non PPV fighters. Joshua and Wilder can't even get 1 mil on Showtime but you expect them to sell 1+ mil PPV?.
              Yeah, I do.

              I think this fight, properly promoted, is the biggest fight in boxing.

              If these were not undefeated heavyweight KO artists, I would agree with you.

              But the heavyweights have always been a different animal, KO artists especially.

              It will sell.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                Lets make it simple.

                Joshua is making 15+ mil per fight.
                Wilder is making 1.5 mil per fight.

                Who needs who more?
                It's funny when Wilder tries to play himself up for a big payday, but this one thing is clear: Those who run the game know who brings in the $$ and are willing to pay accordingly. An extremely talented and future superstar like Joshua is seen as an investment and pulls $15+million per fight. He's a new champ with a 20-0 record, with 20 KOs. Then we have Wilder, a 39-0 fighter with 38 KOs. Sounds better on paper, but the people with the money think he's only worth paying $1.5 million per fight (cough...only fights bums, cough...has an amateurish style, cough) AJ gets paid 10 times more than Wilder. Deontay thinks he's worth the same as Joshua, but those who sign the checks disagree.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  Lets make it simple.

                  Joshua is making 15+ mil per fight.
                  Wilder is making 1.5 mil per fight.

                  Who needs who more?
                  They know how it works what puzzles them is that for once it’s not their guy who is the A-side. That’s all it is.

                  Imagine Wilder was the one pulling 10x what Joshua did and AJ said 50-50 or no fight??

                  These guys would go ballistic

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    Are you really as dumb as that?
                    Really?...that's all you can come up with?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by NaijaD View Post
                      They know how it works what puzzles them is that for once it’s not their guy who is the A-side. That’s all it is.

                      Imagine Wilder was the one pulling 10x what Joshua did and AJ said 50-50 or no fight??

                      These guys would go ballistic
                      Not the right analogy, or not complete anyway.

                      Try these.

                      If Wilder was pulling 10x what AJ was, yet it was clear that the biggest financial market for a potential fight was Britain- where neither man had ever sold one PPV- then it would be outrageous for Wilder to propose anything less than 50/50 for a fight in Britain.

                      If Wilder had paid Molina 45% and Stiverne 50% it would be outrageous for him to offer AJ 30%.

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