Will ESPN Cancel the Deal with GBP SInce ODH got the DUI?

[Eff Pandas]

Shaw and RNS simply couldn't come to a final understandng on the terms that they agreed to (I think Shaw wanted to have his company acquired by RNS, with he himself becoming the "boxing guy" for the entire RNS company).

With how slow RN has progressed & the general low budget PBC-like mismanagement of investment in boxers they have had in fans opinions they might have been better off keeping Shaw around. You know 20/20 hindsight & all.

[Scipio2009]

What people are not considering is the responsibility of a promoter. Note that the current fighter signed to GBP is avoiding the fight people want to see.

GBP went through a period where they promoted the competitive fights people wanted to see. They could do this because they could easily drop a fighter that didnt live up to the hype.

Not going to say Schaeffer acted honestly but it is a fair argument to say he balanced the risk of signing a fighter long term against the reward of promoting what is hot on a fight by fight basis.

Saul Alvarez isn't signed to Golden Boy Promotions; Saul Alvarez is signed to Canelo Promotions, which partners with Golden Boy Promotions on the fights involving Saul Alvarez (With Canelo Promotions keeping the Mexico money and basically splitting the net proceeds on everything else 80/20).

Golden Boy was able to "promote the competitive fights people wanted to see" because they had the TV outlets and Haymon had his fighters banned by HBO.

The risk wasn't "signing a fighter longterm against the rewards of promoting on a fight-by-fight basis"; the risk was that Haymon could walk away, work out a deal with Lou DiBella, and Schaefer (and a stable of largely Latin fighters below 135lbs) would have to compete for Showtime dates against DiBella (and a stable including Floyd Mayweather and a sheer ton of top talent, including fighters like Wilder, Garcia, Thurman, etc), a competition that he'd largely lose, tbh

[Scipio2009]

With how slow RN has progressed & the general low budget PBC-like mismanagement of investment in boxers they have had in fans opinions they might have been better off keeping Shaw around. You know 20/20 hindsight & all.

maybe, but no crying over spilled milk and all that jazz

[Mitchell Kane]

No idea, tbh.

It seems like you should have an idea since you keep on bringing him up.

You're proposing something that Roc Nation and Gary Shaw "could" do and you're not substantiating it very well.

[Mitchell Kane]

What's the etc, though? Just like you, I've got access to BoxRec; you remove the shows at Bellasco and Fantasy Resorts, and you've basically got the 5 shows that you've listed and not much of anything else.

The point is, the fighters that were big enough for other tv like HBO/PPV (like Canelo, Hopkins, Lemieux, Vargas, Matthysse), where they had more of a bigger budget, they have taken their fighters to other venues.

Most of their roster wasn't at that level, and so they were limited to where they had those fights.

That's kinda the point of the ESPN2 deal, better budget, and Gomez has said they will stage fights all over the country.