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Who hits harder; McGregor or Robert Guerrero?
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Originally posted by larryxxx. View PostIt is not about power as in heavy hands and raw strength..Distance,timing both are hard to gauge on the elite level..Balance is also key and when and where you land the punch you want to land...Like in the 1st Kovalev-Ward fight..Kovalev landed the perfect punch as far as timing but he did not turn his punch correctly or land it as accurately as he should have
But who has the heavier hands?
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That's the thing. We have no idea if McGregor's power in MMA (which is above average not elite) will translate to boxing. It might, but probably not.
He is not a 1 punch KO artist with 4oz gloves, watch his KOs, he does knock guys down with 1 shot, but need to finish them with punches on the ground. In boxing all of his MMA KOs would have been given an 8 count and allowed to fight on. It's not like he's turning guys lights out standing up, he's not.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI'd say out of Floyd's last 12 fights he's the only one that's arguable.
Oscar
Hatton
Marquez
Mosley
Ortiz
Cotto
Guerrero
Canelo
Maidana x2
Pacquaio
Berto
Some people seem to be of the opinion that McGregor is a big puncher. I've seen nothing to suggest that but I suppose it's an interesting argument.
Does he hit harder than any of those? As I said only one I think is possibly arguable is Guerrero. But I would still say Ghost to be honest.
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Conor times these UFC guys coming in. You gotta remember these guys are primarly wrestlers/Jiu jitsu experts, not strikers. These guys learned how to punch in their 20's in many cases.
Conor does have reach tho. 74" reach is pretty remarkable. I think he has heavy hands. Wont land anything big on Floyd!
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Originally posted by jas View Posthard to tell
anyone is a hard puncher with 4 ounce gloves on
You make it sound so easy. Like everyone wearing 4oz gloves should boast KO records like Conor's. Well they don't and the reason McGregor is the name that he is is because he did what all the others could not.
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Originally posted by commonsense View PostSo why did it take 10 years for Jose Aldo to fall? Every single person tried and failed to do what Conor did in 13 seconds. What about Eddie Alvarez? Dropped 4 times and KO'd, something never done by a previous opponent in 4oz gloves. How about Nate Diaz? Never dropped in his career from a 4oz glove until he met Conor and was put down like a cow in a slaughter house 3 times in 2 rounds.
You make it sound so easy. Like everyone wearing 4oz gloves should boast KO records like Conor's. Well they don't and the reason McGregor is the name that he is is because he did what all the others could not.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI'd say out of Floyd's last 12 fights he's the only one that's arguable.
Oscar
Hatton
Marquez
Mosley
Ortiz
Cotto
Guerrero
Canelo
Maidana x2
Pacquaio
Berto
Some people seem to be of the opinion that McGregor is a big puncher. I've seen nothing to suggest that but I suppose it's an interesting argument.
Does he hit harder than any of those? As I said only one I think is possibly arguable is Guerrero. But I would still say Ghost to be honest.
Whether he can punch with boxers, that remains to be seen but all evidence so far points to it.Last edited by LacedUp; 07-16-2017, 06:23 PM.
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Originally posted by richardt View PostBut the fact is, Conor wont be wearing 4oz gloves, they will be 10oz gloves and as soon as Conor has had some fights and I'm talking about boxing matches wearing 10oz gloves, then we can rate Conor's power or lack of it - against pro boxers.
The technique is what makes the difference, not the gloves.
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Originally posted by John Locke View PostObviously Guerrero, he's been training with his hands for 20+ years. Hitting hard isn't only about who's more heavy-handed, but who's more accurate and uses correct technique and timing. McGregor KOs guys with 4oz gloves, who aren't trained to defend punches specifically, that makes a big difference.
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