Why Do Jews Not Acknowledge Christ?!

[siablo14]

What bible verse? And just because buddhists prayed to God doesn't somehow mean Buddhism preaches God.

The one you provided that made you think Jesus Christ started Christianity.

[JimRaynor]

The one you provided that made you think Jesus Christ started Christianity.

Do you disagree that the verse says Jesus told his disciples to spread the good word all over the world?

[Lomasexual]

Karma, reincarnation, etc. the way you understand it are Hindi teachings not Buddhist.

Which version of Buddhism are you talking about? Plenty of Buddhists believe in the supernatural version.

Semantics, point was that fitness could be a religion, and point was proven.

You understand the difference between a metaphor and something literal, yes?

When using metaphors, anything can be anything. All you have proven is how far you want to stretch.

The ironic part about this quote, is you yourself have no idea about the teachings of Buddhism, their concept of reincarnation or karma is not supernatural, ie they don't believe you'll be reincarnated as another being due to how you live today. Their teachings are handed down from a man and his perspective on life, not Gods.

You can find some useful info here.
http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/reincarnation.htm

Thanks, I am pretty familiar with Buddhism already. Which is why I also talked about Buddhism as a philosophy - you seemed to miss that.

Simply put, when a Buddhist follows a version of Buddhism with no supernatural elements, it is a philosophy. You might want to read up on that a little bit.

When the version of Buddhism has supernatural elements, it is a religion.

Unless you want to rely on metaphors, in which case everything is a religion. Everything is also everything if you rely on metaphors, which seems kind of pointless.

[maracho]

In the first Century AD the Romans considered Christianity a sect of Judaism.
Some think Christianity was created by the Judeans to pacify the Romans, who must have seemed invincible at that time.
Interesting how invincible the Vikings were before they became Christians, and how chickenshit they became afterwards.
Sometimes I think we should have never abandoned the old (Norse, Roman, Slavic, Celtic, Germanic, Dacian, Greek) gods.

actually lots of counter intuitive irony

The Romans considered Christianity a sect of Judaism but in reality Judaism is a sect of Christianity because the Old testament is all about faith in the coming Christ.

The Vikings actually did most of their winning after they became Christian and particularly out of Denmark and Normandy.

There is evidence that those gods that you mentioned were spread by lost tribes.

[maracho]

That's not true because in those times Jews wouldn't acknowledge the rising of Christianity nor acknowledge its stem from theirs, the Rabbis or high priest made sure of that. The Christ had a huge followship of Semitic peoples (which included various races in the Middle East). By the way Arabs are considered Semitic people. Anti-Semitism is a failed phrase since technically it benefits Arabs and other Middle Eastern cultures. Plus the Romans were well aware of the crucifiction that had happened. Jews in those times stuck together by the same traditions today. The Romans didn't just consolidate Christianity as a stem from Judaism. Such a conspiracy in itself would've inevitably exiled all Jews from those regions and them being slaved in Egyptian records was historically known by the Romans.

Actually it is true and the first Christians were Jews. The Romans did banish the Jews from Israel just as Jesus prophesied. Luke 21:24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

[maracho]

What bible verse? And just because buddhists prayed to God doesn't somehow mean Buddhism preaches God.

They preach because they teach creator gods and becoming one with the war goddess

[siablo14]

Do you disagree that the verse says Jesus told his disciples to spread the good word all over the world?

I agree with that.

[maracho]

The ironic part about this quote, is you yourself have no idea about the teachings of Buddhism, their concept of reincarnation or karma is not supernatural, ie they don't believe you'll be reincarnated as another being due to how you live today. Their teachings are handed down from a man and his perspective on life, not Gods.
You can find some useful info here.
http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/reincarnation.htm

Even your own article on karma and reincarnation says that you are super naturally transformed into different being in accord with how you live today. It also talks of spirit worlds and spirit beings:
“Buddhism teaches the existence of the ten realms of being. At the top is Buddha and the scale descends as follows: Bodhisattva (an enlightened being destined to be a Buddha, but purposely remaining on earth to teach others), Pratyeka Buddha (a Buddha for himself), Sravka (direct disciple of Buddha), heavenly beings (superhuman [angels?]), human beings, Asura (fighting spirits), beasts, Preta (hungry ghosts), and depraved men (hellish beings)….. Consider well then your motives and intentions. Remember that man is characteristically placed at the midpoint of the ten stages; he can either lower himself abruptly or gradually into hell or through discipline, cultivation and the awakening of faith rise to the Enlightened state of the Buddha.”

[maracho]

I got the sense that Jews respected Jesus as an important biblical figure, and important to their own faith.
However they absolutely reject the idea that he is the messiah.
I think that the main cause of their beef with Jesus is the idea of him as the messiah, not with him as another prophet of the abrahamic faith.

The Bble was written by Jews who believed Jesus to be the Messiah and also tells of Jews who believed and will believe that Jesus was a Satanic magician.

Historians like Josephus also wrote the same

I see. If you wanna interpret that verse that way but all he said was go and spread the gospel. He never said go start a religion and name it Christianity.

Wrong, he absolutely "invented" Christianity as its named after Him, and
“And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.'” Mark 16:15

People invent religion. Jesus invented life and truth which is what the Bible is about and why sacrifices were meant to remember to have faith in the prophesies of the coming Messiah. In fact, most if not all religions are in some ways based on Jesus the Messiah

Gotcha but if he was the son of God, should he have lied to hurt people's feelings?
Jesus didn't invent or encourage the forming of Christianity that was done by his sycophants after he died.
Same thing for Buddha too. Buddha didn't invent or encourage the forming of Buddhism. He just was trying to find the right way to living life and he came up with some rules he thought would work after trying different methods. I believe it was his wife who encouraged or formed Buddhism.

Jesus interpreted and fulfilled the scriptures and said you only enter heaven through Him and that when you look at Him you are looking at God, which is what His disciples taught

According to Jim Raynor Buddha remains on earth in order to keep people from going to hell. On the other hand, history tells us that he died while eating some rotten meat

No he didn't. The Jesus character was a Jew. Paul invented christianity.

Paul taught what Jesus taught

[JimRaynor]

I agree with that.

Would you then agree if Jesus never asked his disciples to go spread the word and if the word wasnt spread then Christianity wouldn't exist?