Originally posted by Left Hook Leuty
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How highly do you rate Ezzard Charles?
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Originally posted by wmute View PostI can understand disregarding h2h but comparing Charles-Moore 1,2,3 to Marciano-Louis is simply ridiculous.
Moore was 30-32 when they fought, and went on to have the most celebrated part of his career *after* those fights. Louis was 37, shot to pieces and retired after the bout.
I also don't usually look at h2h (Holmes-Ali, Tyson-Holmes are other examples of terrible ones) but when you have a 3 fights series among prime fighters, it seems valid information.
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Originally posted by wmute View PostThis actually makes for more interesting conversation than rankings. What do you think made Charles Kryptonite to Moore?
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Originally posted by Left Hook Leuty View PostThe fact he was such a good technician. Fast, strong and athletic. A style like Moore's is generally not favorable against top technicians.
Moore beat Harold Johnson 4 out of 5 times and Johnson was one of the best technicians you will ever see.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Leuty View PostThe fact he was such a good technician. Fast, strong and athletic. A style like Moore's is generally not favorable against top technicians.Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI'm not sure.
Moore beat Harold Johnson 4 out of 5 times and Johnson was one of the best technicians you will ever see.
I think physical talents, which you also point out, might have been making the difference.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI'm not sure.
Moore beat Harold Johnson 4 out of 5 times and Johnson was one of the best technicians you will ever see.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Leuty View PostYeah, the other physical gifts play a huge part. But if there is a technician like Charles, who won't stand in the pocket and get countered, and who is mobile, then they have a great chance of beating Moore, as long as they don't get drawn into his mind games.
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Thinking about it, it is probably speedy technicians, with height and reach that most exploits Moore's style.
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Originally posted by wmute View PostI can understand disregarding h2h but comparing Charles-Moore 1,2,3 to Marciano-Louis is simply ridiculous.
Moore was 30-32 when they fought, and went on to have the most celebrated part of his career *after* those fights. Louis was 37, shot to pieces and retired after the bout.
I also don't usually look at h2h (Holmes-Ali, Tyson-Holmes are other examples of terrible ones) but when you have a 3 fights series among prime fighters, it seems valid information.
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