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  • Originally posted by Uncle Kadyo View Post
    Because we're the only one uncle sam can dupe and sam doesn't have to spend much for it. They are banking on a president whose presidential parent defended their bases furiously when their time to stay expired. Assuming that the Philippine government has the balls to say no to their stay here be it military exercise then the most natural question is where?
    i find this topic very interesting.

    even though i'm filipino, i obviously have a american perspective or at least none-filipino perspective.

    duped into what?

    what are americans duping filipinos into?

    bases?

    the americans left subic and clark 20+ years ago.

    they seem to have done okay without it.

    america has an estimated 662 overseas bases in 38 countries.

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    • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
      i wasn't aware that philippines was the only country where american soldiers can get r&r.
      They need a county for r&r or they'll have troubles with their soldiers raping each other.

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      • Originally posted by Uncle Kadyo View Post
        They need a county for r&r or they'll have troubles with their soldiers raping each other.
        ummm ok.

        but why does it have to be philippines?

        i'm sure americans can rape other nationalities as well.

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        • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
          i find this topic very interesting.

          even though i'm filipino, i obviously have a american perspective or at least none-filipino perspective.

          duped into what?

          what are americans duping filipinos into?

          bases?

          the americans left subic and clark 20+ years ago.

          they seem to have done okay without it.

          america has an estimated 662 overseas bases in 38 countries.
          Ever heard of a us commodore named dewey and a pinoy revolutionary leader aguinaldo?

          Do a research on how much we received from uncle sam compared to those 38 countries. We received pittance.

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          • Eto na nga pala yung link dun sa bangasan sa pacland

            http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopi...=228881&hilit=

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Kadyo View Post
              Ever heard of a us commodore named dewey and a pinoy revolutionary leader aguinaldo?

              Do a research on how much we received from uncle sam compared to those 38 countries. We received pittance.
              ok.

              no bases for 20 years.

              make it another 100 years then.

              no bases in philippines. and america suffers how?

              they have guam, hawaii. u.s. territories in the pacific.

              they have bases in asia in japan, south korea as well. real allies, not just on paper.

              what do they need bases in philippines for?

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              • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                ok.

                no bases for 20 years.

                make it another 100 years then.

                no bases in philippines. and america suffers how?

                they have guam, hawaii. u.s. territories in the pacific.

                they have bases in asia in japan, south korea as well. real allies, not just on paper.

                what do they need bases in philippines for?
                I'm not saying america suffers but check out the south china sea map, Philippines is strategically and realistically the best geographical location to check china.

                Japan needs them as well as south korea, do we?

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                • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  ok.

                  no bases for 20 years.

                  make it another 100 years then.

                  no bases in philippines. and america suffers how?

                  they have guam, hawaii. u.s. territories in the pacific.

                  they have bases in asia in japan, south korea as well. real allies, not just on paper.

                  what do they need bases in philippines for?
                  and don't let them fool you about not having bases here for 20 years. They never left.

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                  • Originally posted by Uncle Kadyo View Post
                    I'm not saying america suffers but check out the south china sea map, Philippines is strategically and realistically the best geographical location to check china.

                    Japan needs them as well as south korea, do we?
                    actually to check china you don't need philippines.

                    you contain them from going east from korea, japan, hawaii, guam.

                    then you bottle up the straits to the indian ocean.

                    easily done based out of australia or other bases in the oceania or indian ocean,

                    far away from chinese air cover.

                    not so from philippines which is within the reach of chinese aircraft and missiles.

                    if i was an american strategist, i'd fight china in east asia. closer to home and the south koreans and japanese actually have militaries to support.

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                    • Originally posted by Uncle Kadyo View Post
                      and don't let them fool you about not having bases here for 20 years. They never left.
                      i'm not letting anyone fool me.

                      i know the americans make stops to philippines.

                      i just don't overvalue it nor do i think america needs it.

                      even stopping american visits completely wouldn't affect the u.s. much.

                      this is not 1898 and warships do not run on coal.

                      modern u.s. destroyers and cruisers have ranges of 8-12,000 km UNREFUELED. their submarines and carriers can operate for years nonstop.

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