I'm Convinced Brock Would Beat Fedor...

[TheAxe Murderer]

Even though Werdum caught him, Fedor hits when you least expect it. By the time you realize it you'd be hard on the canvas.
I'm pretty sure Fedor can handle Brock's fists but I still see Brock getting submitted if they ever do fight. And unlike Carwin, Fedor actually has a gas tank.

[Blair_Wells#32]

how does Fedor Submit with Zero Room To Move?
brock showed he's smart enough to give Submission specialist Minimal Room To Move.

[F l i c k e r]

Yup, I agree with the TS except for the scared to fight in the UFC thing. UFC locks up fighters, tells them what to do and what not to do. That's why Fedor chose to not fight in the UFC. Fedor didn't need to go to UFC like other fighters do. I do agree with Brock beating Fedor though. I think he is simply too big, too strong and too athletic. This is a sport where if you have a distinct size and strength advantage and you can wrestle. Your chances of winning are very very high.

I don't think Fedor could do what Carwin did to Brock in the 1st round. I don't think they punch with equal power,Carwin > Fedor in power. So I don't think Brock will be put in the same situation that Carwin had him in, if Fedor were to fight him. IF Fedor was in the same position as Carwin was in the 1st round, then I believe he would finish the fight. However, I don't think he can do that to him(Brock).

When Brock panics he goes to his second nature, wrestling. I don't believe Fedor will stop Brock's take down attemps at all, maybe the 1st shot but the follow up clinch, not at all. He will get lifted up and dropped like Couture did. Then we will have to see if Fedor can get back up to his feet against a person with the size and strength of Brock. Which isn't that easy to do.

The only comparison on Fedor's resume to Brock is Randleman and even then Randleman is smaller than Brock, even smaller than Fedor. And that fight(Fedor-Kevin), is the only fight where you see Fedor get man handled grappling. So, if Randleman could man handle him, I don't doubt that Brock can too.

The only area I see Brock legitimately having issues with. (fedor-brock won't be a stand up war). Is the submission game. Fedor doesn't exactly have to get up, he can work from his back like Mir did. But he would have to go for the legs. Mir isn't a slouch with the bjj game, he is extremely good actual(whether you like him or not) and even he said Brock's upper body is too big to get a hold of, so he went for the legs. Fedor would have to go for the legs as well being even smaller than Mir, upper body lock is slim to none chance. Seeing how Brock was able to nullify Mir completely the 2nd fight, I don't think he will all of a sudden not realize Fedor has a submission game and get owned with the leg lock a 2nd time. He'd be a fool and a fraud to get done like that again.

So, as a result I think Brock would win. Possible tko, like how Randy got done. Submission? Maybe but I doubt it. Decision more possible than a tko. Either way, I think Brock wins. Too big, too strong, too athletic. #1 heavyweight in the world right now.

[monaroCountry]

how does Fedor Submit with Zero Room To Move?
brock showed he's smart enough to give Submission specialist Minimal Room To Move.

Its dangerous for someone with no boxing and kickboxing skills like Brock to go up close and personal to someone like Fedor. Get close enough and Brock will get his head knocked off his shoulders.

I think he is simply too big, too strong and too athletic. This is a sport where if you have a distinct size and strength advantage and you can wrestle. Your chances of winning are very very high.

Randy and easpecially Herring were able to survive and last Brock. Herring on his fight with Fedor got his face smashed in inside one round. Fedor actually rag dolled Herring, something Brock couldnt do.

When Brock panics he goes to his second nature, wrestling. I don't believe Fedor will stop Brock's take down attemps at all, maybe the 1st shot but the follow up clinch, not at all

Brocks second nature is to run, hide and do the turtle. Fedor should easily counter Brocks take down attempts, either that or simply knee Brocks head.

The only comparison on Fedor's resume to Brock is Randleman and even then Randleman is smaller than Brock, even smaller than Fedor. And that fight(Fedor-Kevin), is the only fight where you see Fedor get man handled grappling. So, if Randleman could man handle him, I don't doubt that Brock can too.

Randleman and especially Matt Lindland are far better wrestlers than Brock Lesnar, and we all know how devastatingly that ended.

The only area I see Brock legitimately having issues with. (fedor-brock won't be a stand up war). Is the submission game. Fedor doesn't exactly have to get up, he can work from his back like Mir did. But he would have to go for the legs. Mir isn't a slouch with the bjj game, he is extremely good actual(whether you like him or not) and even he said Brock's upper body is too big to get a hold of, so he went for the legs. Fedor would have to go for the legs as well being even smaller than Mir, upper body lock is slim to none chance.

Thats because Mir isnt a very good grappler, hell the guy lost in grappling against Roy Nelson. If Fedor can armbar HMC then he should be able to do something with the far smaller Brock.

The same Fedor who got beat after 30 secs last week by a UFC reject
The same Fedor who got G n P'd by Brett "Hype Job" Rogers
The same Fedor who's biggest wins are against Cro Cop and Noguiera?

Carwin would destroy Fedor anyday of the week and Brock would blow Fedor out of the water, after 6 fights in MMA Brock arguably has bigger wins on his resume then Fedor. Fedor fans do make me laugh. JDS, Velasquez & Mir could all give Fedor a run for his money but that is the reason that we will never see Fedor because he knew the division was too deep for him.

Same Brock who got submitted by an inferior BJJ fighter in Mir (as compared with the best BJJ fighter in Werdum)?

The same Brock who became a punching bag from the Shane "Hype Job" Carwin (Rogers before Fedor had a very similar unbeaten record and Ko record as Carwin).

The same Brock whos biggest win is against a LHW 50yo Randy and a the "please dont hit me" Mir?

Carwin, Brock, JDS, and Cain and all these hype jobs havent even faced or trainined against any top level K1 figher. Their best fighter in Brock ran away like a little girl and hid after getting hit, their second best fighter couldnt even finish a hapless girl and gassed out in the first fricken round.

[monaroCountry]

Rogers is a joke to compared to Carwin. Carwin is on a whole other level. Carwin is the hardest hitter in MMA. His hands are like cinder blocks. Rogers hits like rubber tires... Brock would just take down Rogers and ground and pound. Same with Fedor.

Again thats just what the UFC whats people to think, they use that whole whose hand is bigger whose hand looks like a sledgehammer garbage. If you look at the actual record though, its actually Brett Rogers that is the bigger hitter. If Shane can frighten Brock with his punches, imagine what Brett Rogers can do. I think Brett would actually have a very good chance of winning against the punch shy Brock Lesnar.

Brett Rogers prior to Fedor - June 6 2009
Win: 10–0
KO (Punches): 6
TKO (Knees/Punches): 3
Submission: 1

Shane Carwin at the same time - March 7, 2009
Win: 11–0
KO (Punches): 3
TKO (Knees/Punches): 3
Submission: 5

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Brock has also had only 6 fights can u imagine the beating he puts on Fedor with a bit more exp?

[monaroCountry]

Brock has also had only 6 fights can u imagine the beating he puts on Fedor with a bit more exp?

By the time he learns how to do a kimura he would be as old as Randy........by that time hes main concern wont be about Fedor but about where he left his walking stick.

[Blair_Wells#32]

shanes a hype job??? i thought he was the guy to beat brock?

[Pelencho]

there are 2 people in this debate. fedor nuthuggers who will never believe anyone could beat him no matter what. then there are the rest of us who deal with reality. at this point brock is better