Do You Feel More Safe With Republicans or Democrats In Control of the USA?

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[JimRaynor]

Think about what you just said.

Lets make sure people understand what happened.

The government used and manipulated people's raw and shaken emotions to get public support to go to war with a country that had nothing to do with 911.

Americans got got by their own government.

Iraq wasnt a mistake. They knew specifically what they were doing and they knew that they would get away with it. We just wanted to get back at 'those bastards' and they wanted their plan carried out.

I dont know why people forgave them for it.

I know that any politician or person who still defends that war is officially a nutjob for me (Im looking at you Pence).

Trust me, post 9/11 in 2001-2004 you didn't need the media to convince anyone to go to war, the people were calling for it without any outside help.

[JimRaynor]

Probably this pattern of swapping back and forth beteween democrat and republican leadership works

Prevents the country from ever getting too far down one side's rabbit holes

I don't have to worry about this country ever being a Christian fundamentalist ****hole or a broke socialist ****hole. Fine with me

When the country was most fundamentalist Christian post WWII, this country saw its greatest prosperity and influence in the world.

[BrometheusBob.]

When the country was most fundamentalist Christian post WWII, this country saw its greatest prosperity and influence in the world.

Correlation =/= causation my friend. But even if being fundamentalist had any significant causal affect on prosperity, I'd be willing to trade some of that prosperity for increased freedom.

The freedom to live my life as I see fit without regulation from fervent religious folk is something I value.

[AllBoxingAD]

Trust me, post 9/11 in 2001-2004 you didn't need the media to convince anyone to go to war, the people were calling for it without any outside help.

Thats not true. The government did have to use the media because we wanted to get back at those who attacked us, NOT just any random country who had nothing to do with it, and not just any muslim country.

They tried hard as hell to create imaginary links between Saddam and terrorists.

Remember the colored "danger level" warnings? Yellow, orange, red, blue, fushia, violet, burgundy... Be scaaared people.

They manipulated the hell out of folks to justify their war.

[Luilun]

Under the Trump and Obama admins, I feel/felt safe. Under Bush, no so much. The bush administration waged war in Iraq that arguably destabilized much of the middle east.

Obama’s incompetence created ISIS , Obama had no clue in foreign Policy the guy was a total disaster

[JimRaynor]

Correlation =/= causation my friend. But even if being fundamentalist had any significant causal affect on prosperity, I'd be willing to trade some of that prosperity for increased freedom.

The freedom to live my life as I see fit without regulation from fervent religious folk is something I value.

The freedom you crave might not bring religious regulation, but it sure will bring regulation from the secularists. The endorsement and promotion of ****sexuality and transexuality, feminism, disregard for gender norms, and of course the suppression of free speech and the 2nd amendment are all the things secularists will work hard to, as you put it, fervently regulate the opposite way.

[man down]

Cmon who is the PC crowd? Now tell me if we went to war with someone would they have PC drama? Or hardcore killers? Its easy to see who should make you feel safer.

[BostonGuy]

Towards the end of the Obama administration up to Trump's first year in office, I (and I think many Americans) were very anxious and worried about the threat from North Korea. They were launching missile tests and engaging in aggressive and hostile rhetoric; it was quite tense.


I am happy that the Trump admin is pursuing diplomacy with North Korea and the tension that was there, is no longer present. I don't know what's gonna happen but it doesn't feel like we are on the brink of war.


"But Trump is praising Kim Jung Un, doe.....he's being nice to an evil dictator, doe."


Yeah he is, but that's sure as hell much preferable than being on the brink of nuclear war. Let's keep things in perspective.

[GhostofDempsey]

It really depends on who is in charge. McCain and Cheney were war-mongers and I didn't feel comfortable while they were in power. Bush had what amounted to a blank check issued to him by the American public after the attacks on 9/11, so what did he do? He invaded Iraq. Bush and Obama were responsible for the rise of ISIS and domestic terrorist attacks. Clinton left us exposed and vulnerable and the 9/11 attacks were due more to his policies and ineffectiveness as a President than that idiot Bush.

I don't fear a war or attacks on American soil under Trump, but I have to wonder if somewhere down the line he wouldn't get us into an unnecessary small-scale conflict that could escalate. I'm not a fan of John Bolton, the National Security Advisor. He is a Bush Admin holdover who supported the war in Iraq and he has too many ties to the swamp.