Who is the worst president among bush sr, clinton, bush jr, obama and trump

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Bush jr how is that even debateable.

[DARKSEID]

If mad at trump u should be more mad with obama for letting trump happen

Yah he brought the country towards extremely left, empowered gays, what do u expect the rights would do?

The democrats could have at least given us a plausible candidate. Nobody wanted clinton's crooked ass running things.

Trump was the lesser of two evils.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Obama turned 10% unemployment to 4.7%

As Obama prepares to leave office, the unemployment rate is at 4.7 percent, less than half of the peak it reached in October 2009.

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/50860...en-in-8-charts

He cut a trillion dollars off the deficit.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

He drastically reduced abortions.

Declining Abortion Rates

The report found that abortion rates declined in every region of the United States between 2011-2014, with an overall decline of 14 percent. Abortion rates dropped in all but six states, declining by an average of 3-6 percent per year.

In 2013, the abortion rate fell below a million for the first time since the 1970s. This change comes in spite of growing numbers of women of childbearing age. By 2014, the abortion rate was 14.6 per 1,000 women aged 15-44. That’s the lowest rate ever recorded.

Can the Affordable Care Act Take Credit?
The Affordable Care Act greatly expanded access to contraception, requiring almost all plans to cover birth control. Use of the most effective birth control strategies, including hormonal contraceptives and intrauterine devices (IUDs) has increased. The drop in abortions coincides with the implementation of the ACA’s birth control mandate.
He drastically cut illegal immigration.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...e-of-Obamacare

He tripled the stock market.


When Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States on January 20, 2009, the U.S. stock market was in free fall. The financial crisis was in full swing following the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the Standard & Poor’s 500 index, a popular measure of the U.S. stock market, closed at 805 points on Inauguration Day.
Eight years later, the S&P 500 index has risen to 2,274 points after one of the great bull runs in stock market history. With Obama as president, the U.S. stock market, as measured by the S&P 500, returned 235%, or 16.4% annualized.

The top-performing sector of the Obama stock market was the consumer discretionary sector, which returned 338%, or 20% annualized,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanv.../#76d5e9de16d1

He provided tens of millions of people with health care.

Over all, Obamacare has substantially reduced the number of Americans without insurance. According to the report, 19.3 million fewer people were living without health insurance in 2017 compared with 2010, when the Affordable Care Act passed Congress.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/u...last-year.html

He got us out of two wars.

Iraq and Afghanistan



Sorry, to once again prove how woefully ignorant you truly are. It just kills you that a Democrat did all of that for the U.S. and all of its citizens, doesn't it? To top it off, a black Democrat at that!!

Ouch, I probably shoulda lubed you up first.

So we don’t have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Obama didn’t triple the stock market, the low interest “free money” flooded the market. You have to have zero understanding of markets to think obama somehow tripled the market. It was the near zero% loans, no decent nonmarket alternatives like bonds or cds, globalization, and buybacks that fueled the bull market.
Can you name one piece of legislation that obama backed that helped the market?


Obamacare? Where they lied and said premiums would go down and you could keep your plan? It was so disastrous of a plan, that no candidate left or right, wanted to keep as is, it was either total repeal, or major changes.

The national debt went up 100% under obama, to claim he cut trillions is pure fallacy.
You can’t go from 9 trillion in debt to 18 trillion in debt by “cutting trillions”



Like I said, half you posted was bullshyt

[Dr.Cool]

For starters he ramroded ACA which pissed off more than half the country and is still in legal mess. This singlehandedly caused major divisions between party lines. Had it been handled more appropriately I doubt Repubs would have been nearly as obstructionist the rest of his term.

Hyperpartisan on gun issues with his “They get bitter, cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” comment

His Treyvon "If I had a son it'd look like him" comment and subsequent ignoring of BLM violence.

Over-all he was all about identity politics and putting minority groups against the majority. Doesnt get more decisive than this IMO.

The fact that Obama was so divisive they ****ing elected Trump in response.

These are just a few off the top of my head.

During the push for health reform (also known as HillaryCare) the ultra-right wing Heritage Foundation drew up a plan of their own, that “Republican Sen. John Chafee of Rhode Island was the point man. The bill he introduced, Health Equity and Access Reform Today, (yes, that spells HEART) had a list of 20 co-sponsors that was a who’s who of Republican leadership. There was Minority Leader Bob Dole, R- Kan., Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and many others. There also were two Democratic co-sponsors.
Among other features, the Chafee bill included:
• An individual mandate;
• Creation of purchasing pools;
• Standardized benefits;
• Vouchers for the poor to buy insurance;
• A ban on denying coverage based on a pre-existing condition. (Greenberg).

President Obama came with a largely Republican proposal, yet was greeted with instantaneous rejection and no counter-proposals by Republicans. In fact, seven years later, and Republicans still have absolutely no plan on health care. Elected Republicans should have been ecstatic that a Democrat President and a Democratic Congress first proposed an essentially Republican plan. Instead all Republicans did was obstruct and fight.

Before the Affordable Care Act was the Stimulus Package. Now, this is also still a rallying cry of Conservatives of how Obama refused to work with them and compromise. Republicans say they made suggestions for tax cuts but were basically told to be quiet and stay out of it; they claim this “spending bill” was pushed through without any compromise. Well, roughly one third of the Stimulus Package was tax cuts! (Richert) So the first two major issues, President Obama and the Democrats took many Republican proposals and agreed to them immediately. Republicans cried this was not fair and blamed Democrats for refusing to compromise. Again, one third was exactly what Republicans wanted, which may be why they never made any actual proposals but instead just attacked Democrats.

On guns, he advocated for less regulation than Reagan and Bush 41 did. Literally.

Anti-immigrant???

Deportations, or "removals" as the Department of Homeland Security calls them, increased in each of the first four years President Obama was in office, topping 400,000 in fiscal year 2012. Obama oversaw more deportations than George W. Bush did

Border Patrol apprehensions, which the government sees as a barometer of illegal border-crossing attempts, have been dropping for the past decade and a half. The Border Patrol apprehended 337,117 people nationwide in fiscal year 2015. That's down nearly 30 percent from the previous year and nearly 80 percent below the peak in 2000. Monthly figures through July of this year show a slight uptick, but apprehensions are still well below 2014 levels.
Late last year, the Pew Research Center reported that in the previous five years, more Mexicans had left the United States than entered.

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/49196...migration-laws

So, he was divisive, because he endorsed a Republican health care plan, was less restrictive on guns than Reagan and Bush 41, and deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in history???

That was a Republican health care plan. Sen. Chuck Grassley was on Fox just a few months before Obama endorsed it, saying how an individual mandate and this plan had bipartisan support.

The Republicans were divisive. They cried about their own health care plan. And still are. Even now that they are in charge, they won't repeal it. Because it was theirs to begin with.

But hey, I understand, even if they were Republican plans at first, once a black man endorses them, then everything changed. lmao. Obama was divisive for agreeing with Republicans. Wow. What a truly uneducated, backward fool you are. I suggest staying in school, kiddo.



Sources:
Greenberg, Jon. “Is the ACA the GOP Health Care Plan from 1993?” Politifact. Nov. 15, 2013. Web. Retrieved Jan. 20, 2017.

Richert, Catherine. “Stewart Claims that the Stimulus Bill is One-third Tax Cuts.” Politifact. Feb. 10, 2010. Web. Retrieved Jan. 20, 2017.

[Dr.Cool]

So we don’t have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Obama didn’t triple the stock market, the low interest “free money” flooded the market. You have to have zero understanding of markets to think obama somehow tripled the market. It was the near zero% loans, no decent nonmarket alternatives like bonds or cds, globalization, and buybacks that fueled the bull market.
Can you name one piece of legislation that obama backed that helped the market?


Obamacare? Where they lied and said premiums would go down and you could keep your plan? It was so disastrous of a plan, that no candidate left or right, wanted to keep as is, it was either total repeal, or major changes.

The national debt went up 100% under obama, to claim he cut trillions is pure fallacy.
You can’t go from 9 trillion in debt to 18 trillion in debt by “cutting trillions”



Like I said, half you posted was bullshyt

Click the link. There is a major difference between deficit and debt. I know, they don't teach that til junior high though. He cut a trillion dollars a year off the deficit.

As for the stock market, on March 9, 2009:

The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost 80 points, or 1.2%, to end at 6,547.05, its lowest point since April 15, 1997.
The S&P 500 (SPX) index lost nearly 7 points or 1%, to end at 676.53, its lowest point since Sept. 12, 1996.
The Nasdaq composite (COMP) lost 25 points or 2%, to end at 1,268.64, its lowest point since Oct. 9, 2002.


https://money.cnn.com/2009/03/09/mar...rkets_newyork/

Then on Jan. 20, 2017


The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) declined 0.4%, to close at 19,732.40. The S&P 500 also decreased 0.4% to close at 2,263.69. The tech-laden Nasdaq Composite Index closed at 5,540.08

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/stock...-2017-cm736061

The stimulus helped the stock market. Before the stimulus the country was losing 750k jobs a month. As soon as the stimulus went into effect, we started gaining 200k jobs a month. Having a net gain of almost one million jobs per month, boosts the stock market. It really isn't rocket science.

As for Iraq and Afghanistan, there are tens of thousands less U.S. troops in both. In both countries, the U.S. is only there to support their militaries.

As for Obamacare, the Republicans are in control of the House, the Senate, and the White House. And guess what? Obamacare is still there. Whenever you have a major new policy, there will be kinks that need worked out. And as soon as Republicans had the power to immediately repeal Obamacare they no longer wanted to. Then they said the wanted to keep the law, but make some changes. Like the Democrats had been saying for six years. lol.


Again, I know facts are hard for you to understand. Stay in school!

[Elroy The Great]

real question (maybe its been asked)....

''whose the worst president who had zero political experience ???''

[STREET CLEANER]

Obama turned 10% unemployment to 4.7%

As Obama prepares to leave office, the unemployment rate is at 4.7 percent, less than half of the peak it reached in October 2009.

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/50860...en-in-8-charts

He cut a trillion dollars off the deficit.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

He drastically reduced abortions.

Declining Abortion Rates

The report found that abortion rates declined in every region of the United States between 2011-2014, with an overall decline of 14 percent. Abortion rates dropped in all but six states, declining by an average of 3-6 percent per year.

In 2013, the abortion rate fell below a million for the first time since the 1970s. This change comes in spite of growing numbers of women of childbearing age. By 2014, the abortion rate was 14.6 per 1,000 women aged 15-44. That’s the lowest rate ever recorded.

Can the Affordable Care Act Take Credit?
The Affordable Care Act greatly expanded access to contraception, requiring almost all plans to cover birth control. Use of the most effective birth control strategies, including hormonal contraceptives and intrauterine devices (IUDs) has increased. The drop in abortions coincides with the implementation of the ACA’s birth control mandate.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...e-of-Obamacare


He drastically cut illegal immigration.


Border Patrol apprehensions, which the government sees as a barometer of illegal border-crossing attempts, have been dropping for the past decade and a half. The Border Patrol apprehended 337,117 people nationwide in fiscal year 2015. That's down nearly 30 percent from the previous year and nearly 80 percent below the peak in 2000.

Late last year, the Pew Research Center reported that in the previous five years, more Mexicans had left the United States than entered.

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/49196...migration-laws


He tripled the stock market.

When Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States on January 20, 2009, the U.S. stock market was in free fall. The financial crisis was in full swing following the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the Standard & Poor’s 500 index, a popular measure of the U.S. stock market, closed at 805 points on Inauguration Day.
Eight years later, the S&P 500 index has risen to 2,274 points after one of the great bull runs in stock market history. With Obama as president, the U.S. stock market, as measured by the S&P 500, returned 235%, or 16.4% annualized.

The top-performing sector of the Obama stock market was the consumer discretionary sector, which returned 338%, or 20% annualized,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanv.../#76d5e9de16d1

He provided tens of millions of people with health care.

Over all, Obamacare has substantially reduced the number of Americans without insurance. According to the report, 19.3 million fewer people were living without health insurance in 2017 compared with 2010, when the Affordable Care Act passed Congress.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/u...last-year.html

He got us out of two wars.

Iraq and Afghanistan



Sorry, to once again prove how woefully ignorant you truly are. It just kills you that a Democrat did all of that for the U.S. and all of its citizens, doesn't it? To top it off, a black Democrat at that!!

Ouch, I probably shoulda lubed you up first. That's what you get when you only listen to am radio and Fox News. I deal in facts. You simply state falsehoods. You probably aren't lying, you are probably just that stupid. Which is incredible that any one person can be that dumb. But you really are.

He tripled the market in 8 years, or it went up by default and inflation?

Record number of kids taken from the borders and forced into US states foster care system.

He did not get us out of two wars, he simply withdrew and it caused a bunch of other problems.

You must be able to distinguish for what it is said and what actually happened.

And as soon you bring Obamacare into the conversation you lose. That thing was a disaster.

[HOUDINI563]

All Presidents are given credit for how the economy performed during their presidency. Carter entered his presidency with the Fed embarking on a righting campaign. They significantly increased rates and decreased money supply to cool off a hot economy (to prevent hyper inflation). Reagen gets into office and the Feds tighning campaign is over. They begin to lower rates and expand money supply. Result is the economy expanded. Obama entered his Presidency with the economy in complete free fall. The Fed drastically reduced rates and increased money supply to prevent a depression. The economy took off from there

Each President in many ways is a prisoner of the Fed along with the economic cycle at the time they enter office.

Those of you that stayed in the market when the far right entertainers were telling you to get out and buy gold were richly rewarded. Those that bought gold lost their shirt. Note they don't mention this do they? The far right entertainers bank on their sheep having a very short memory.