Why is the Left Screaming That Millions Will Die if Trump Care is Passed?

[siablo14]

True that and with more tough love

I am %100 percent with you. He is a lost lamb of God. Guide him back to the correct path.

[DinoCop]

LoL, looking from where I am Trump has always seemed to be the best candidate both for you US ppl and others. Couldn't grasp why ppl were mad about him wanting to deport illegals or calling some hos as hos.
I love him bcz he roasts morons (hipsters, hippies, atheists, ****s). He kind of lets them burn in their own fire

[HAMMER77777]

Damn. He got banned. I wanted to continue this convo.

I'm back. Long story. IMHO, mod made a mistake. I'm gonna let it go and move on. Let's discuss this topic.....

[siablo14]

I'm back. Long story. IMHO, mod made a mistake. I'm gonna let it go and move on. Let's discuss this topic.....

You said due to more competition the price would go down but we are seeing that in some areas, there is only one provider so there is no competition taking place.

[maracho]

Fact. But again, it's a lie to say you can't get care. YOU CAN. You just have to pay for it.

There isn't a person alive who would be refused at any hospital. But you WILL get a bill. Either you pay the bill or insurance does.

Socialists want the rich to pay for them. That's not how you create a sustainable future.

I would gladly support a system that helps pay for some kid who was born with a defect that had nothing to do with her mom or dad's poor decisions.

But hell no I won't pay for some kid who is born with a defect because the mom had to light up a cigarette, nor would I pay for some dude to get lung cancer treatments because he can't stop smoking cigars. Those are choices.

Yes treatment but not all kinds of choices for treatment, which is what I thought you said earlier.

Now there are countries where "everyone" does have lots of choices including cheap government hospitals, private hospitals and all kinds of private and government clinics, some of which also offer both in one place.

[HAMMER77777]

You said due to more competition the price would go down but we are seeing that in some areas, there is only one provider so there is no competition taking place.

Very good point. But that is due to the regulations of the current law. If we ease those regulations, companies will Flood the marketplace with policies that people can buy, don't u think? Competition (in my opinion) is decreasing, and in some cases, as u mentioned, non-existent due to the regulations of the current law.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yes treatment but not all kinds of choices for treatment, which is what I thought you said earlier.

There is no treatment in 'Murica you can't get, so long as you eventually pay for it somehow.

I get what you're doing. You're trying to use the fact that money is involved to justify socialist care. That's NOT how it works nor how it should work.

Life is about choice.

If you smoke or drink, you're NOT poor. You choose to be out of money and thus, choose to cause health issues. Stop smoking/drinking, not only will you be healthier, you'll save thousands of dollars for REAL health issues.

ON the other end, do you realize how many people are unemployed because they choose to be? Yes, CHOOSE to be.

I've interviewed hundreds of people over years. I've had people literally show up in flipflops, shorts and sunglasses smelling like they came straight off a basketball court. They HAD to know they weren't getting the job yet they do it anyway.

I've had friends who asked me for help getting work, I get them set up with appointments and it was like, "but...I don't want to work THAT kind of job, I mean I did this kind of job before, can't you find me that again?" MF'er, a JOB is a JOB.

Millennials today who are "scared" to leave home, who feel they should just be paid $15/hour for nothing, who can't understand why they have to learn "adulting".

Girls who ask for money, I hook them up with a GUARANTEED job, they then complain because I didn't just "give" it to them.


No. No, I don't want to cover healthcare for any of those people I mentioned, nor should I have to. People need to learn to get jobs, where healthcare is provided as a benefit, in exchange for HARD WORK and dedication to the craft.

[siablo14]

Very good point. But that is due to the regulations of the current law. If we ease those regulations, companies will Flood the marketplace with policies that people can buy, don't u think? Competition (in my opinion) is decreasing, and in some cases, as u mentioned, non-existent due to the regulations of the current law.

Oh, you are blaming the current ACA law for that? No man it was like that before.
How does the current regulation cause their to be one provider in some districts.
BTW, most of those one provider district can be found in red states.

[maracho]

There is no treatment in 'Murica you can't get, so long as you eventually pay for it somehow.

I get what you're doing. You're trying to use the fact that money is involved to justify socialist care. That's NOT how it works nor how it should work.

Life is about choice.

If you smoke or drink, you're NOT poor. You choose to be out of money and thus, choose to cause health issues. Stop smoking/drinking, not only will you be healthier, you'll save thousands of dollars for REAL health issues.

ON the other end, do you realize how many people are unemployed because they choose to be? Yes, CHOOSE to be.

I've interviewed hundreds of people over years. I've had people literally show up in flipflops, shorts and sunglasses smelling like they came straight off a basketball court. They HAD to know they weren't getting the job yet they do it anyway.

I've had friends who asked me for help getting work, I get them set up with appointments and it was like, "but...I don't want to work THAT kind of job, I mean I did this kind of job before, can't you find me that again?" MF'er, a JOB is a JOB.

Millennials today who are "scared" to leave home, who feel they should just be paid $15/hour for nothing, who can't understand why they have to learn "adulting".

Girls who ask for money, I hook them up with a GUARANTEED job, they then complain because I didn't just "give" it to them.


No. No, I don't want to cover healthcare for any of those people I mentioned, nor should I have to. People need to learn to get jobs, where healthcare is provided as a benefit, in exchange for HARD WORK and dedication to the craft.

What you are saying is that you have a lot of connections and know a lot of spoiled brats but dont actually know any working poor /99%.

Btw, the $15/hour (about $2100/ month after uncle sammy rapes him) that you hyped won't automatically get you whatever healthcare you want. You'd better have "good" insurance, which averages at least $1000/month for a family. Then figure you need to take out at least another $1100/month for mortgage, insurance, property tax, gas, power, water, etc. This ain't even counting stuff like student loans

Dude has $0 left over for food, and his car or fridg etc. will probably breakdown so he has to get out the credit card and goes deeper and deeper into debt, which your Murica government just loves to death because its whole system is basically about keeping their industrial lobbys and fat cats fat.

Now you get it?

[HAMMER77777]

Oh, you are blaming the current ACA law for that? No man it was like that before.
How does the current regulation cause their to be one provider in some districts.
BTW, most of those one provider district can be found in red states.

Its not a red/blue issue. The insurers are running away BECAUSE of the ACA. The ACA with its regulations and manDates. If people could buy across state lines, then anybody could buy as little or as much insurance as they want. Regulation doesn't help competition.