Are You People Mad In Britain Electing Corbyn?

[1bad65]

The soviet union's achievements are actually very underrated when you look at what they started with.

Well they did murder tens of millions of their own people, and that will hold a civilization back.

America had better wage and GDP growth when it was more socialistic during the post war period from 1950-1970.

We weren't very socialist then. You've got it backwards.

That was after the New Deal, but we didn't get welfare politics until around 1968.

That was a pretty good era (but for Vietnam), and it was not socialist. Actually it was between socialism-heavy times in this country.

[Hype job]

Well they did murder tens of millions of their own people, and that will hold a civilization back.



We weren't very socialist then. You've got it backwards.

That was after the New Deal, but we didn't get welfare politics until around 1968.

That was a pretty good era (but for Vietnam), and it was not socialist. Actually it was between socialism-heavy times in this country.

It wasn't outright socialism but it was more socialistic than the last 30 years.

[Hype job]

So then it's not really free, and some folks get screwed.

See, the people who get the "free" college then pay higher taxes when they get jobs so the next generation gets their "free" college.

And the people who don't go to college, well they pay the higher taxes anyway.

And the Government oversees this, so they get their cut ,which raises the cost.

Ain't socialism great!

Yeah, it is.

[1bad65]

It wasn't outright socialism but it was more socialistic than the last 30 years.

The New Deal years, maybe.

But now, no way. After Obamacare's redistribution, no other era but the New Deal comes close.

[JimRaynor]

The soviet union's achievements are actually very underrated when you look at what they started with.

And you're not 100% right on the bolded, the Free market, laissez faire capitalism is relatively new in America's history.

America had better wage and GDP growth when it was more socialistic during the post war period from 1950-1970.

American history is pretty straight forward and in our classes kids are taught about Adams Smiths wealth of nations and the founding fathers initial adaptation of his formula, which now has been serving us for hundreds of years. So while Europe experimented with communism, Nazism, Fascism, and Socialism, America always stayed true to Capitalism. It worked for hundreds of years fornus and there is no reason that it will stop working for hundreds of years more.
To say that In 1950-1970 USA was more socialistic is not entirely true. In regards to Medicare and Medicaid then yes, but there also were not nearly as many regulations as there are today, and by 1976 during Jimmy Carters reign USA had enough of socialist practices, which in turn reigned in Reagan and a rebirth of America's economy.

In regards to the Soviet Unions achievements being underrated when you look what they started with, well if you're talking about a government in turmoil in the first years after the revolution then yeah, if you're referring to their economic output based on being the largest territory in the world with the most natural resources out of any nation at the time, then no.
Soviet Union had everything you could hope for in a nation in terms of resources. They had an abundance Various metals from iron to steel, wood, natural gas, oil, incredibly rich and fertile soil in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and the man power of over 300 million. With all of that they still crumbled because communism doesn't work.

[Hype job]

American history is pretty straight forward and in our classes kids are taught about Adams Smiths wealth of nations and the founding fathers initial adaptation of his formula, which now has been serving us for hundreds of years. So while Europe experimented with communism, Nazism, Fascism, and Socialism, America always stayed true to Capitalism. It worked for hundreds of years fornus and there is no reason that it will stop working for hundreds of years more.
To say that In 1950-1970 USA was more socialistic is not entirely true. In regards to Medicare and Medicaid then yes, but there also were not nearly as many regulations as there are today, and by 1976 during Jimmy Carters reign USA had enough of socialist practices, which in turn reigned in Reagan and a rebirth of America's economy.

In regards to the Soviet Unions achievements being underrated when you look what they started with, well if you're talking about a government in turmoil in the first years after the revolution then yeah, if you're referring to their economic output based on being the largest territory in the world with the most natural resources out of any nation at the time, then no.
Soviet Union had everything you could hope for in a nation in terms of resources. They had an abundance Various metals from iron to steel, wood, natural gas, oil, incredibly rich and fertile soil in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and the man power of over 300 million. With all of that they still crumbled because communism doesn't work.