Are You People Mad In Britain Electing Corbyn?

[Kosta]

I'll explain the uk parliament to you.

It's not a presidential system.

The prime minister is merely leader of whatever government is mashed together from the 646 geographical "seats" in the government. Each area votes local representatives in from the main parties. Corbyn is just leader of labour.

Generally the system delivers at least one party with the 324 seats required to have a majority and therefore, with the help of obedient mps, get through all the legislation they want

In 2015 and now the system didn't deliver any majority. So everyone is confused as hell. In 2015 conservatives and liberals teamed up in coalition. This time it's not as simple, every party is basically anti Brexit except conservatives. No one wanted to get into bed with them even tho at 318 seats they r the largest. So they hVe done some really amateur and unofficial with a small northern Irish party called DUP who have 10 seats where the DUP agree to get all conservative legislation over the line - most likely in return for some mental levels of northern Irish investment. They will probably pave the roads of Belfast in gold

So corbyn hasn't actually won, but if the tories hadn't managed to talk over the DUP, well the SNP and labour in that case could have formed a government if the liberals had supported them and then corbyn would be the prime minister as leader of the "government"

This is why Theresa May was in such a rush. At 12.20pm yesterday Nicola sturgeon who runs the SNP offered to form such a hodge podge government with labour but by 12.25pm Theresa May was already meeting with the queen. In these cases, which are rare but happened in 2015 too, when you think u can make a "coalition" you have to go to the queen and prove to her your government won't be total chaos. If she gives her blessing, that coalition goes into government. The incumbent pm always gets first shot and if may had had 4 less seats, then the DUP wouldn't be sufficient and corbyn wud most likely be pm

This is why the media is treating. Corbyn like the winner. This majority of the may government is so small, it will be chaos, the eu will have us on the ropes in Brexit talks and there will be another election to sort the House of Commons out. Now bare in mind May was expected in polls to have a 90 seat majority so you can see why corbyn has all the momentum now. Suddenly no one believes in May or her party anymore and when the said second election takes place which it likely will chances are labour/SNP/liberals will rack up enough seats to make corbyn the coalition pm

[Jamie harris]

He hasn't been elected, but rather made to seem electable. He is garbage, and the UK is fucked if they go that route.

How would we be fxcked. Were the greatest nation on earth you mug.

[Prince Madison]

hes a deluded fool but he didnt get elected. dont know why labour are celebrating so much, they still lost

[Jamie harris]

I'll explain the uk parliament to you.

It's not a presidential system.

The prime minister is merely leader of whatever government is mashed together from the 646 geographical "seats" in the government. Each area votes local representatives in from the main parties. Corbyn is just leader of labour.

Generally the system delivers at least one party with the 324 seats required to have a majority and therefore, with the help of obedient mps, get through all the legislation they want

In 2015 and now the system didn't deliver any majority. So everyone is confused as hell. In 2015 conservatives and liberals teamed up in coalition. This time it's not as simple, every party is basically anti Brexit except conservatives. No one wanted to get into bed with them even tho at 318 seats they r the largest. So they hVe done some really amateur and unofficial with a small northern Irish party called DUP who have 10 seats where the DUP agree to get all conservative legislation over the line - most likely in return for some mental levels of northern Irish investment. They will probably pave the roads of Belfast in gold

So corbyn hasn't actually won, but if the tories hadn't managed to talk over the DUP, well the SNP and labour in that case could have formed a government if the liberals had supported them and then corbyn would be the prime minister as leader of the "government"

This is why Theresa May was in such a rush. At 12.20pm yesterday Nicola sturgeon who runs the SNP offered to form such a hodge podge government with labour but by 12.25pm Theresa May was already meeting with the queen. In these cases, which are rare but happened in 2015 too, when you think u can make a "coalition" you have to go to the queen and prove to her your government won't be total chaos. If she gives her blessing, that coalition goes into government. The incumbent pm always gets first shot and if may had had 4 less seats, then the DUP wouldn't be sufficient and corbyn wud most likely be pm

This is why the media is treating. Corbyn like the winner. This majority of the may government is so small, it will be chaos, the eu will have us on the ropes in Brexit talks and there will be another election to sort the House of Commons out. Now bare in mind May was expected in polls to have a 90 seat majority so you can see why corbyn has all the momentum now. Suddenly no one believes in May or her party anymore and when the said second election takes place which it likely will chances are labour/SNP/liberals will rack up enough seats to make corbyn the coalition pm

Im english and it doesnt work like that.

[Jamie harris]

hes a deluded fool but he didnt get elected. dont know why labour are celebrating so much, they still lost

He will let all the muslims in to bomb us and the eastern europeans to rape our women! Hes a knob jockey

[Kosta]

Im english and it doesnt work like that.

Which part of its not correct

[Jamie harris]

Which part of its not correct

Every part. Whoever gets the most votes win its simple. Yhey want to join DUP for their ideas

[Mukuro]

How would we be fxcked. Were the greatest nation on earth you mug.

Start showing it then. Bring back drawing and quartering and public executions and I will be on board.

[Kosta]

Every part. Whoever gets the most votes win its simple. Yhey want to join DUP for their ideas

None of its wrong but you are wrong.

Generally that happens so no one ever thinks about the constitutional bits. 90% of the time the system returns a majority so you have a working government. If that doesn't happen, then a coalition has to be formed but they have to prove they can run a stable government and actually get legislation through, otherwise someone else has an opportunity to do a deal of their own, vote down the queens speech when parliament is opened and form their own. Constitutionally, that can happen.

If no coalition were done and parliament was still opened then yes the party with the mist seats but no majority could operate a minority government. However, my prediction for that would be a vote of no confidence within a year and another election. In fact, even though today the DUP/Tory deal was confirmed I still think it will happen due to the fact that the tories now smell blood on May. They can apply to the 1922 committee and if 15% of their MPs sign up to that then she will have to step aside. Following that, there will almost certainly be another election.

The reason it's all about deals is because we don't have a constitution. There is no official process. All of the above happened in the 1970s and in 2015 if you recall the liberal democrats very nearly did a deal with labour to be the government of the country even though the tories had the most seats. Don't you remember that? It very nearly happened and the only reason it didn't is because the liberal democrats decided to go with the largest party for the sake of public opinion - to Gordon Browns dismay - but the point is they could have done it and nearly did - so you're wrong. It's not simple in the uk and this is precisely why some peoples argue we need a codified constitution

[Sparked_26]

What I don't get about the Tories is they never have any revenue streams. They just sell publically owned assets when they can.

Corbyn actually had a costed manifesto and said he'll nationalise the Rail and the Royal Mail when those contract expires. Tories barely had a manifesto it was a farce.

Hard Brexit? Nobody knew what it meant and they never explained it.

I don't understand what Tories actually do when they're in charge tbh. Nothing basically but drastically cut public spending. And they have no idea about the electorate or what they are feeling.

Corbyn should have won and will win shortly.

The working class of England voting for Tories has always seemed like turkey's voting for Christmas.

But I am surprised that Labour did so well. I guess if I had to put myself in a box I'm a socialist. Corbyn's labour are socialist party. It says something about the mood of the country.

Conservatives are in trouble. They might be out before Christmas imo.

And if the argument is conservatives are more hardline on terrorism, security etc. They're not. The prime minister herself oversaw a cut of 20,000 frontline police officers and thousands upon thousand of support staff.

Yanks comparing your political system to ours doesn't really work. The tories are a horrific party.