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  • #21
    Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
    Man, it's sad that such misinformation is being passed around. Even if the possibility exist that man made climate change isn't as big of a deal as we thought (which goes against all real hard evidence), isn't just the possibility enough to take seriously and make change? We are talking about the future of humanity, not the next election or whatever. The mere threat alone should be enough to force countries and corporations to implement serious changes. Weay already be at the point of no return but doing nothing at all is absolutely evil.
    Human overpopulation and it's consequences will destroy most of the life forms on the planet.

    And yet it's rarely spoken about. Nothing is being done about it.

    By the way, Al Gore's predictions of ten years ago have not happened.

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    • #22
      There are millions of other scientists teaching and conducting research around the globe that would beg to differ...

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      • #23
        Climate change is real but the left treats it similar to how they treat race and gender.

        They made an "official statement" (One sentence we are all to repeat thoughtlessly: Humanity is doomed unless we live in eco-communes) on the topic and anyone who tries to expand on it is attacked and labelled a heretic, climate denier, etc.

        One of my GIS professors created a database of regions and species that would benefit from climate change vs those that would be harmed by it. The mere fact that it mentioned anything or anyone benefiting from a slight change in temperature (as opposed to some hysterical doomsday scenario) got them attacked and threatened by political groups with no real interest in the topic other than that doomsday $$$.

        There is no corner of life the cult doesn't want singular opinion control of.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
          Human overpopulation and it's consequences will destroy most of the life forms on the planet.

          And yet it's rarely spoken about. Nothing is being done about it.
          And why is that? What is it about human overpopulation specifically that causes such a big threat?

          By the way, Al Gore's predictions of ten years ago have not happened.
          And? Who was talking about Al Gore? Such a weird thing to randomly say. Hey, did you know Bob Doles prediction on ___ didn't happen? Like what made you think that it was a good time to bring up Al Gore... is it because this is a thread about climate change? Since when was Al Gore the lead expert on climate change? Last I checked Al Gore was a politician who like all politicians have their own agendas. Gore certainly didn't invent the idea of climate change nor is he a leading expert (you can call him an "activist" of the sorts if you want but he certainly isn't some leading authority on the matter).

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          • #25
            Freedom, why do you post links on here knowing they are bull****? I mean, you post a link to a website that isn't credible, red flag for any reader right off the bat so you're smart enough to know that right? If anyone cares they can simply Google it and find that it's BS in 5 seconds. So we can see, oh wow this exact same headline has been going around since 1998 (many of us probably even have vague memories about it on Facebook or hell, Myspace).
            The petition was created by individuals and groups with political motivations, was distributed using misleading tactics, is presented with almost no accountability regarding the authenticity of its signatures, and asks only that you have received an undergraduate degree in any science to sign.

            Oh, well, that doesn't seem very honest. But it can't be that bad, right?
            It is therefore misleading for the signatories to be considered climate scientists or even top researchers in their field, as some suggest. In fact, based on the group's own numbers, only 12% of the signers have degrees (of any kind) in earth, environmental, or atmospheric science.

            Further, the petition and its creators are not neutral parties, and the major en****** supporting it can easily be described as politically motivated. The petition was organized by Arthur B. Robinson, a conservative politician who founded the aforementioned Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and who holds a PhD in biochemistry from the University of San Diego.

            Well that's just lame, Freedom. Stop wasting people's time with the click bait Facebook junk.


            http://www.snopes.com/30000-scientis...limate-change/

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            • #26
              Overpopulation and man's effect on the environment are both huge problems for earth and mankind...

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              • #27
                freedom gonna freedom

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                  And why is that? What is it about human overpopulation specifically that causes such a big threat?
                  More people mean more forests and wetlands converted into farmland, more pollution, and more environmental degradation.

                  Half of the world's wetlands have disappeared since 1900. Development and conversion continue to pose major threats to wetlands, despite their value and importance.

                  http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth...intro/threats/

                  Conversion of wetlands for commercial development, drainage schemes, extraction of minerals and peat, overfishing, tourism, siltation, pesticide discharges from intensive agriculture, toxic pollutants from industrial waste, and the construction of dams and ***es, often in an attempt at flood protection, are major threats to wetlands everywhere.

                  A major threat is the draining of wetlands for commercial development, including tourism facilities, or agricultural land. In addition, unwise use of freshwater to feed these developments poses a further threat. In all too many places, the amount of water being taken from nature's underground aquifer is far outstripping its ability to replenish itself. The result is that as the water level drops, millions of trees and plants are dying because they are deprived of their life-sustaining supplies.

                  Hundreds of thousands of hectares of wetlands have been drained for agriculture. Globally, agriculture accounts for 65% of the total water withdrawal on Earth. Agriculture and other industries such as paper making are often very wasteful and inefficient with water.

                  Pollution in wetlands is a growing concern, affecting drinking water sources and biological diversity. Drainage and run-off from fertilized crops and pesticides used in industry introduce nitrogen and phosphorous nutrients and other toxins like mercury to water sources. These chemicals can affect the health and reproduction of species, posing a serious threat to biological diversity.

                  Here's an excellent, comprehensive article that answers your question much better than I'm able to:

                  Why Population Matters to Biodiversity

                  http://pai.org/wp-content/uploads/20...compressed.pdf

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                    More people mean more forests and wetlands converted into farmland, more pollution, and more environmental degradation.

                    Half of the world's wetlands have disappeared since 1900. Development and conversion continue to pose major threats to wetlands, despite their value and importance.

                    http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth...intro/threats/




                    Here's an excellent, comprehensive article that answers your question much better than I'm able to:

                    Why Population Matters to Biodiversity

                    http://pai.org/wp-content/uploads/20...compressed.pdf

                    Literally from the link you provided:
                    Climate change is also taking its toll. Increases in temperature are causing polar ice to melt and sea levels to rise. This in turn is leading to shallow wetlands being swamped and some species of mangrove trees being submerged and drowned.

                    Yet at the same time, other wetlands - estuaries, floodplains, and marshes - are being destroyed through drought.

                    Overpopulation has a massive effect on the climate, as we know. And what would we refer to that as Freedom? Man made climate change. Jesus ****ing Christ Freedom, get your **** together.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                      Overpopulation has a massive effect on the climate, as we know. And what would we refer to that as Freedom? Man made climate change.
                      The whole point of the thread is although the world may be warming, the root cause of it all is overpopulation.

                      But they always go on about global warming, never about overpopulation, the "elephant in the room".

                      I drove through Eastern USA one time (Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia) and it appeared that nearly every bit of land is for human use.

                      I saw the same in Illinois, Indiana, etc. Many huge farms, no hedgerows between the fields any more.

                      Southern Ontario, Canada is the same.

                      Only northern areas and cold-climate high elevations have fewer people, but those areas naturally have far fewer species of plants, amphibians, birds, etc. Warm lowlands and riverine areas have high biodiversity, but that's where humans build their cities and do their farming.

                      Global warming has actually helped some species survive by moving north. The fascinating Western Grebe for example has lost it's lakeside nesting habitat in Southern Alberta due to increased human population and consequent increased human disturbance by recreational boaters, but are now trying to survive by nesting beside the quieter more northerly Lesser Great Slave Lake.

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