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Why so many white people on welfare?
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostIt's because the federal government has grown, and sucks so much out of the economy, plus debasing the currency from gold standard..
All so that the big military contractors and banks will benefit.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostThe military has grown, you mean. We don't have any money to fix our crumbling infrastructure yet we always seem to find some to spend on all those conflicts in some foreign land.
All so that the big military contractors and banks will benefit.
We are trillions of dollars in debt, everything needs to be either abolished or shrunken drastically
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostI agree... Military spending is way too high, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the federal government is just way too big..
We are trillions of dollars in debt, everything needs to be either abolished or shrunken drastically
Everybody knows how much is wasted on defense, but the untold story is just how badly having a gigantic uninsured population is hurting us economically. These people never go to doctors because they can't afford it, so they get all their treatments in the emergency room where they pay nothing and usually, by the time they're admitted to the hospital, something's seriously fucking wrong with them which means more expensive treatments which get shifted on to the backs of taxpayers.
If you implement universal coverage you put the emphasis on prevention rather than treatment, and everybody knows it's far less costly to prevent a disease rather than treat one.
It might be a bit more costly short-term (though that's admittedly only a guess on my part, because most experts seem pretty split down the middle regarding where the cost would fall), but long-term benefits would be a significant reduction in annual healthcare spending.
The cost of treatment and medicine needs to be drastically reduced, as well. The pharmaceutical industry is absolutely murdering us with their inflated prices where, in other countries, the same drugs are 5-10 times cheaper.
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Originally posted by ßringer View PostYou cut defense spending and implement a single-payer healthcare system and you'd be surprised how quickly that deficit will shrink.
Everybody knows how much is wasted on defense, but the untold story is just how badly having a gigantic uninsured population is hurting us economically. These people never go to doctors because they can't afford it, so they get all their treatments in the emergency room where they pay nothing and usually, by the time they're admitted to the hospital, something's seriously fucking wrong with them which means more expensive treatments which get shifted on to the backs of taxpayers.
If you implement universal coverage you put the emphasis on prevention rather than treatment, and everybody knows it's far less costly to prevent a disease rather than treat one.
It might be a bit more costly short-term (though that's admittedly only a guess on my part, because most experts seem pretty split down the middle regarding where the cost would fall), but long-term benefits would be a significant reduction in annual healthcare spending.
Who pays for the universal coverage,,, not the unemployed bums but the everyday taxpayers...
I do agree that a universal single payer system is the answer, but if implemented then we need to cut welfare and link cards, etc
And the ER gets so much action because of the inner city violence,, if theses people had health coverage, that doesn't mean they would start acting civilized and not shooting each other all the time..
Federal government in my eyes should only take care of defense, borders, highways, and universal single payer, and civil rights/disputes. Everything else can be up to state or local officials...
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostWho pays for the universal coverage,,, not the unemployed bums but the everyday taxpayers...
I do agree that a universal single payer system is the answer, but if implemented then we need to cut welfare and link cards, etc
And the ER gets so much action because of the inner city violence,, if theses people had health coverage, that doesn't mean they would start acting civilized and not shooting each other all the time..
Federal government in my eyes should only take care of defense, borders, highways, and universal single payer, and civil rights/disputes. Everything else can be up to state or local officials...
Because I've never seen a single correlation drawn between the two.
And "states rights" is a cop-out argument that allows for discrimination and human rights violations. If we left slavery up to the states I'm sure Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, and others would all still be operating on slave labor today.
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I remember kev tried to make this same ******ed argument and was laughed at. This guy must not have seen that thread. This is basic math. I can't get over how utterly stupid most people on here are.
this is what those numbers really mean.
Originally posted by Enayze View Post110 million people are on some sort of welfare. 44 million are white 28 million are black and 11 million are Hispanic
44 out of 225 million white people means roughly 20% are on welfare
28 out of 39 million black people means roughly 72% are on welfare
11 out of 55 million Hispanic people means roughly 20% are on welfare.
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Originally posted by El-blanco View PostI remember kev tried to make this same ******ed argument and was laughed at. This guy must not have seen that thread. This is basic math. I can't get over how utterly stupid most people on here are.
this is what those numbers really mean.
Blacks were denied home ownership and therefore were not able to build wealth when real estate prices rose. Whites were able to pass down that wealth to their children, unlike black people who had nothing to begin with.
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Originally posted by MikeEhrmantraut View PostBlacks were denied home ownership and therefore were not able to build wealth when real estate prices rose. Whites were able to pass down that wealth to their children, unlike black people who had nothing to begin with.
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