Mass shooting in California.

[1bad65]

You and Trump share the same beliefs. Wow.

I said no such thing. I said that Trump pointed out muslims were celebrating acts of islamic terrorism (specifically 9/11) and when challenged he proved those celebrations indeed occurred. I said nothing about beliefs. Keep up.

Well, I hope you have the same standard for all that you have in this case.

What are you trying to say?

I hope you volunteer to go to war if we decide to deploy boots on the ground.

Why would you say that? Nowhere have I advocated deploying boots on the ground.

You really need to make sure you are comprehending my posts before you attempt to refute them.

[The Big Dunn]

Nope.

AGAIN, I simply said that their holy book tells them to kill all who are not muslim. Catch up.



No, it's people like you who make excuses for them and attacks the wrongs of other religions that make the problem impossible to address.



They've had a few hundred years and have not done it yet. You can hold your breath and wait for that to happen, but I'm certainly not.

I am not making any excuses, I'm just tired of seeing innocent people die. I'm tired of watching the problem exacerbated by the usual mainstream US response.

Yes, Muslims and Jews have been at war before the USA was created. Perhaps we shouldn't have picked a side 4800 years into a conflict.

[The Big Dunn]

I said no such thing. I said that Trump pointed out muslims were celebrating acts of islamic terrorism (specifically 9/11) and when challenged he proved those celebrations indeed occurred. I said nothing about beliefs. Keep up.



What are you trying to say?



Why would you say that? Nowhere have I advocated deploying boots on the ground.

You really need to make sure you are comprehending my posts before you attempt to refute them.

Your posts are very easy to understand. You and I see things differently and its best we keep it there.

[Left Hook Tua]

I am not making any excuses, I'm just tired of seeing innocent people die. I'm tired of watching the problem exacerbated by the usual mainstream US response.

Yes, Muslims and Jews have been at war before the USA was created. Perhaps we shouldn't have picked a side 4800 years into a conflict.

we picked arab side.

cold war forced us to side with israel later on.

arab socialist nationalism swept thru egypt, syria, iraq. they turned to USSR.

that's why if you notice the israeli-arab wars their weapons were mostly soviet weapons.

israelis didn't start using american arms til yom kippur war.

1967 six day war and before, israelis mostly had french, british, german weapons.

[1bad65]

Yes, Muslims and Jews have been at war before the USA was created. Perhaps we shouldn't have picked a side 4800 years into a conflict.

Facepalm

What part of 'they were attacking us long before Israel existed or we got involved in ME politics' do you not grasp?

[ShoulderRoll]

And I brought up their hundreds of years of documented history of violence and terror. Face it, they were committing acts of terror against the world (and the US specifically) long before the modern era. You're simply trying to cherry pick to avoid the truth. Why is that?

They aren't pissed at us right now because of the Barbary pirates, that's for sure.

Why haven't you commented about the CIA and the British Secret Intelligence Service overthrowing the democratically elected Mohammad Mossadegh? Do you deny it happened or are you ok with what we did?

And if you are ok with it don't you think that such actions on our part have consequences?

[The Big Dunn]

we picked arab side.

cold war forced us to side with israel later on.

arab socialist nationalism swept thru egypt, syria, iraq. they turned to USSR.

that's why if you notice the israeli-arab wars their weapons were mostly soviet weapons.

israelis didn't start using american arms til yom kippur war.

1967 six day war and before, israelis mostly had french, british, german weapons.

True. which is why I went 4,800 years. we needed to stay out of the conflict all together. But the geo politics do not allow for it.

I just think its a mistake to think the US is fighting Islam or all Muslims.

[The Big Dunn]

Facepalm

What part of 'they were attacking us long before Israel existed or we got involved in ME politics' do you not grasp?

If you think present day terrorism is related to pirates then so be it.

[Left Hook Tua]

True. which is why I went 4,800 years. we needed to stay out of the conflict all together. But the geo politics do not allow for it.

I just think its a mistake to think the US is fighting Islam or all Muslims.

we're fighting this war incorrectly.

we need to attack these guys like criminal gangs.

not treat them like nations and go to war.

[The Big Dunn]

we're fighting this war incorrectly.

we need to attack these guys like criminal gangs.

not treat them like nations and go to war.

Good point. we could also track them and fight this the way we track and deal with supremacists groups. Either way we need to do it on multiple fronts and make sure Muslims that are not extreme/radicalized are allowed a safe haven.