OFFICIAL: Donald Trump thread.

[1bad65]

Its a Capitalistic mindset.People dont realize whats going on. We all know who owns most Capital in the USA so its beneficial to them. The irony here is this Administration is dead set on a wall to not become Central America but we are well on our way to be Mexico. Mexico has a top 10 economy in the world but has the smallest middle class due to Capitalism. People wonder why we get the poor and un-educated Mexicans? Capitalism! The rich business owners and educated stay in Mexico, they dont want to come to the USA to be governed, pay taxes, etc. 1 thing that sets us above other countries is our Government, sure its flawed but if we didnt have it, the rich would definitely take advantage of the poor.

Considering the US has the biggest middle class, and we're the world's best example of a capitalist system, I'd love to hear you explain that wild assertion.

[WarVeteranO01]

Considering the US has the biggest middle class, and we're the world's best example of a capitalist system, I'd love to hear you explain that wild assertion.

We have a government that regulates business, enforces common/fair hiring practices, and a tax system. Thats how. The market drives our economy but the government regulates it. If we had no government Monopoly corporations would run the USA. Think about it.

But yes you are correct we are and were built on Capitalism but again we are governed. Capitalism isnt as flawed/ridiculous as Socialism but its flawed. Mexico is a great example of failed Capitalism. Mexico has some of the best tourist attractions, weather etc but its chaotic outside of the gated tourist areas and gated communities of the rich.

& to answer your question from yesterday, I dont use a source really for my predictions or comments. I base my opinion off of real life experience. I am a meer peon in the government but I know how it works as a service and its structure.

[1bad65]

We have a government that regulates business, enforces common/fair hiring practices, and a tax system. Thats how. The market drives our economy but the government regulates it. If we had no government Monopoly corporations would run the USA. Think about it.

That's alot of conjecture, and it still doesnt refute my point about the US being the best example of capitalism.

Are we a laissez-faire system? No

But we're the best example of capitalism you'll find.

And we have the world's biggest middle class.

& to answer your question from yesterday, I dont use a source really for my predictions or comments. I base my opinion off of real life experience. I am a meer peon in the government but I know how it works as a service and its structure.

My question was asked today, maybe a half hour or so ago, actually.

I just want to explain how you blame capitalism for Mexico not having a middle class as was your assertion.

Prove or retract, please.



Fyi, if you want to see places with no middle classes, go to any socialist country.

They are the antithesis of capitalism, and they have no middle class whatsoever.

They have the very, very rich, who are the political class, while the rest of the populace is on food rations, suffers shortages, eats zoo animals, and on and on.

You might want to consider that before you take a stab at proving your claim.

[WarVeteranO01]

That's alot of conjecture, and it still doesnt refute my point about the US being the best example of capitalism.

Are we a laissez-faire system? No

But we're the best example of capitalism you'll find.

And we have the world's biggest middle class.



My question was asked today, maybe a half hour or so ago, actually.

I just want to explain how you blame capitalism for Mexico not having a middle class as was your assertion.

Prove or retract, please.



Fyi, if you want to see places with no middle classes, go to any socialist country.

They are the antithesis of capitalism, and they have no middle class whatsoever.

They have the very, very rich, who are the political class, while the rest of the populace is on food rations, suffers shortages, eats zoo animals, and on and on.

You might want to consider that before you take a stab at proving your claim.

Yes and you prove my point the USA is a best example of Capitalism and like I said, its because we have a government that regulates it. A free market is what failed Mexico. Look it up! Mexico is Capitalist and peasants. If there is Mexican middle class, I bet the American dollar is what keeps them there.

U.S. law still and will always favor citizens with capitol like corporations, business owners, land owners etc in most cases. The government is doing just fine, I understand our government is huge and needs some trimming but like always you fail to see my point. There are many of other ways to cut down the Government and get a wall. I personally would merge agencies, force retirements, do a hiring freeze, and add longer probationary terms before an employee is considered a career employee. As for a wall, start picking up deportations and have the Army Corps or Engineers build the wall with DOD funds.

BUT this is all a ploy for something bigger. The Trump name and wealth will survive for centuries. Those that have Capital will survive. Those who are just getting by won't. We already have a homeless/opiod epidemic (something the FDA is working on) going on, I couldnt imagine a more liberal market.

[1bad65]

Yes and you prove my point the USA is a best example of Capitalism and like I said, its because we have a government that regulates it. A free market is what failed Mexico. Look it up! Mexico is Capitalist and peasants. If there is Mexican middle class, I bet the American dollar is what keeps them there.

Regulated, yes.

But we're still the most capitalist country out there.

I've covered that already. Please keep up.

The rest of it is you repeating talking points and your opinions, but not even trying to prove your claim that Mexico has no middle class because of capitalism.

I need you to either prove or retract that specific assertion you made, or stop replying and thus gumming up my Notifications with nonsense.

Prove, retract, or just be quiet.

Thanks.

[Motorcity Cobra]

People wonder why we get the poor and un-educated Mexicans? Capitalism! The rich business owners and educated stay in Mexico, they dont want to come to the USA to be governed, pay taxes, etc. 1 thing that sets us above other countries is our Government, sure its flawed but if we didnt have it, the rich would definitely take advantage of the poor.

Remember when Trump complained about minorities coming to America from "****hole nations" and wondered why Europeans countries didn't send their best? Why would someone doing well in their country (with their socialist healthcare and pensions ) come to America? He doesn't get it.

[bigjavi973]

democrats are now on an apology tour



"im sorry for what I said/did before"


reminds me of the Walkaway campaign before once demos admitted to not caring about black voters

[Motorcity Cobra]

Another out of touch elitist who has never had to work a day in her life

FEDERAL EMPLOYEES GOING THROUGH ‘A LITTLE BIT OF PAIN’ BUT BORDER WALL IS ‘BIGGER THAN’ THEM SAYS LARA TRUMP

he 800,000 furloughed federal employees and 400,000 working without pay due to the government shutdown over $5 billion dollars in funding for a wall on the U.S. southern border are going through “a little bit of pain,” but “this is so much bigger than any one person” said Lara Trump, campaign adviser and daughter-in-law to President Donald Trump and wife to Eric Trump, to right-leaning web show Bold TV on Monday.

“We get that this is unfair to you, but this is so much bigger than any one person. It is a little bit of pain, but it’s going to be for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren and generations after that will thank them for their sacrifice right now,” said Trump.

Lara Trump, who hosts Trump Production's Real News Update acknowledged that federal workers were unable to pay their bills and rent, but said that in the end, it would be worth it.

“I know it’s hard, I know they have bills to pay, they have mortgages, they have rents that are due, but the president is trying every single day to come up with a good solution here and the reality is it’s been something that has gone on for too long and gone unaddressed,” she said. “I would just tell them, please stay strong, we appreciate everything that you’re sacrificing, we’re behind you and we are going to do everything that we can, I know the president is doing everything he can to resolve this quickly.”

https://www.newsweek.com/shutdown-la...r-wall-1300775

[1bad65]

Another out of touch elitist who has never had to work a day in her life

There you go team cheerleading again.

Why aren't you calling out Pelosi, who is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and is so rich she owns a pro sports team?

That's pretty elitist, owning a sports team.

Wheres your outrage at all the 1%'er lifer politician Democrats who never worked in their lives but are holding these people's livelihoods hostage for a political 'win'?

You always have this selective outrage.

You aren't known as the biggest superfan on the forum for nothing.

[1bad65]

democrats are now on an apology tour



"im sorry for what I said/did before"


reminds me of the Walkaway campaign before once demos admitted to not caring about black voters

What's sad is it actually works on alot of voters.

Sadly alot of people vote solely based on team loyalty and dont care about hypocrisy, double standards, campaign lies, etc coming from politicians on their team.