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  • As usual, the grubers are completely lost when it comes to Economics, and history.

    We once tried a tax solely on the rich, the Luxury Tax, signed by GHW Bush in Nov 1991.

    It was a disaster. The rich do buy alot of nice things, which stimulates the economy. After the new Luxury Tax, they massively cut back on those purchases.

    It not only failed to meet its revenue numbers, it caused a ripple effect in terms of job losses on the goods targeted by the tax. Middle class workers and small businesses people who dealt in building/moving/selling/etc the yachts, cars, jewelry, etc were suffering, despite "the rich" being the sole targets of the tax.

    Here, take a look:

    In November 1991, The United States Congress enacted a luxury tax and was signed by the former President George H.W. Bush. The goal of the tax was to generate additional revenues to reduce the federal budget deficit. This tax was levied on material goods such as watches, expensive furs, boats, yachts, private jet planes, jewelry and expensive cars. Congress enacted a 10 percent luxury surcharge tax on boats over $100,000, cars over $30,000, aircraft over $250,000, and furs and jewelry over $10,000. The federal government estimated that it would raise $9 billion in excess revenues over the following five-year period. However, only two years after its imposition, in August 1993, the Congress decided to eliminate the “luxury tax” since it did not achieve its main objective. However, the luxury automobile tax remained in effect until 2002. A luxury tax still applies in some states for products deemed unnecessary or nonessential, a category in which non-luxury products often fall into.

    Source:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_tax


    Remember guys, learn history, and then avoid repeating failed policies enacted previously.

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    • As typical more misinformation from the toothless wonder.

      The tax increases of 91/93 provided tax revenue higher than any point in history up until that point in time dramatically escalating above average tax revenue (which was as high as Reagen ever maintained).

      GDP INCREASED once the luxury tax was enacted and increased further once the tax increase of 93 went into effect so no harsh economic effect which you are implying.

      65bad SHOULD be on everyone’s ignorelist as his purpose is to provide false information designed to deceive. All far right wing misinformation directly from liars such as Limbaugh and Hannity.

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      • A warrant is now breaking and entering


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        • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
          Yup

          Their acting like people in the lower class can start a business.

          Even in the middle class it would be rather difficult.

          Whether they like it or not it’s the rich dudes that create jobs
          Most Americans are employed by small business owners AKA the middle class.

          Stop sucking the rich dick. They pay prostitutes good money to do that and you're doing it for free

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          • HISTORY shows very dramatically the TRUTH concerning the rich.

            ALL HISTORY shows that the rich (upper few % of of any economy) use lies and deceit in order to obtain POLITICAL POWER.

            Since the rich are few in number they must mobilize the lower classes via, you guessed it, lies, to obtain political power by recruiting these lower classes.

            During the Middle Ages the church conspired with the elite to keep the underclass from revolting. The message? Don’t worry that you have nothing and live in squalor as when you die Paradise awaits.

            Today you have the far right acting as the upper classes mouthpiece. The tax increase promise is a classic example. A dime was given to those who most needed it. Those that voted from Trump. The vast majority was given to those that did not need it...the very rich.

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              • Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
                Since the rich are few in number they must mobilize the lower classes via, you guessed it, lies, to obtain political power by recruiting these lower classes.

                During the Middle Ages the church conspired with the elite to keep the underclass from revolting. The message? Don’t worry that you have nothing and live in squalor as when you die Paradise awaits.

                Today you have the far right acting as the upper classes mouthpiece. The tax increase promise is a classic example. A dime was given to those who most needed it. Those that voted from Trump. The vast majority was given to those that did not need it...the very rich.
                These people throw a fit over McDonald's workers making a measly $15/hr but won't **** about McDonalds getting a tax subsidy to build a restaurant in their city. On top of the taxpayers subsidising the healthcare and housing of McDonalds workers because they don't pay enough. The **** just blows my mind.

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                • I've never seen a person lie and whine as much as Trump. I remember a time in America when men would be ashamed to publicly whine like this. All he does is lie, complain, and whine. The pussification of the American male is embodied in Donald J. Trump


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                  • Very true. Again IF the lower classes understood just how much they have been deceived we would have a revolt in this country as we have never seen before. In actuality it’s only the social programs we have in effect that prevents this revolt from eventually occurring. However the far right will look to dismantle these in another push to make the rich that much richer. Many on here will need to wait until the age of 70 before full retirement. This hurts one group the most..the lower classes...Trump supporters.

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                    • Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
                      Very true. Again IF the lower classes understood just how much they have been deceived we would have a revolt in this country as we have never seen before. In actuality it’s only the social programs we have in effect that prevents this revolt from eventually occurring. However the far right will look to dismantle these in another push to make the rich that much richer. Many on here will need to wait until the age of 70 before full retirement. This hurts one group the most..the lower classes...Trump supporters.
                      So you think its just the rich that are cashing in?
                      In FY 2019 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,179 billion, including $721 billion for Medicaid, and $458 billion in other welfare.
                      Lets not forget about Rental Housing Subsidies, Phones, Utility Subsidies, ect ect.
                      Last edited by man down; 12-16-2018, 12:14 PM.

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