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  • Originally posted by JrRod View Post
    This is why the dems need to jump on this deal. Can’t make everyone on the right happy. This is a good deal for the dems. In those 3 years many of these dreamers can get college degrees, jobs and maybe those jobs will pay for the green card or sponsor it.
    Can Trump be trusted to keep his word? He just went back on the deal they previously had to avoid the shutdown because he listened to Coulter and Limbaugh. Now Coulter is *****ing and complaining again. Hard to negotiate with a guy like Trump who doesn't keep his end of the deal.

    Secondly this is a deal made between Trump and McConnell. That means the other side weren't involved in this deal. So this is a negotiating starting point. The other side will counter with an offer.

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    • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      Can Trump be trusted to keep his word? He just went back on the deal they previously had to avoid the shutdown because he listened to Coulter and Limbaugh. Now Coulter is *****ing and complaining again. Hard to negotiate with a guy like Trump who doesn't keep his end of the deal.

      Secondly this is a deal made between Trump and McConnell. That means the other side weren't involved in this deal. So this is a negotiating starting point. The other side will counter with an offer.
      Well that’s why you get it in writing.

      Also it should matter not whether Trump talked about this deal with McConnell, what matters is that it’s a good deal for the democrats.

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      • Originally posted by JrRod View Post
        Well that’s why you get it in writing.

        Also it should matter not whether Trump talked about this deal with McConnell, what matters is that it’s a good deal for the democrats.
        So if the Democrats got together amongst themselves and came up with a deal and told Trump:

        "We'll give you $5 bil but we want PERMANENT DACA protections"

        Would you call that a good deal for Trump and expect him to accept it without any negotiations?

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        • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          So if the Democrats got together amongst themselves and came up with a deal and told Trump:

          "We'll give you $5 bil but we want PERMANENT DACA protections"

          Would you call that a good deal for Trump and expect him to accept it without any negotiations?
          I'd be ok with that. It's a start.

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          • Originally posted by man down View Post
            I'd be ok with that. It's a start.
            But Trump isn't ok with it. That's why he offered temporary DACA relief for the $5 bil

            One side wants permanent. The other wants temporary. Both sides knew this before today. So what Trump offered today was a negotiating starting point, not a take it or leave it deal.

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            • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              But Trump isn't ok with it. That's why he offered temporary DACA relief for the $5 bil

              One side wants permanent. The other wants temporary. Both sides knew this before today. So what Trump offered today was a negotiating starting point, not a take it or leave it deal.
              Thats fine gotta start somewhere. I'd be down for more money and a fix for DACA. Work visas ECT.

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              • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                So if the Democrats got together amongst themselves and came up with a deal and told Trump:

                "We'll give you $5 bil but we want PERMANENT DACA protections"

                Would you call that a good deal for Trump and expect him to accept it without any negotiations?
                Well the democrats can also come to the table and negotiate Motor. Maybe they can get 5 years amnesty instead of 3. Even though I think 3 years is a good deal maybe the dems can negotiate.

                What you can’t say is what Pelosi said which was this was a non starter.

                Then where do you begin?

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                • There is another possibility.

                  To me, this is all a charade and Trump is not likely to be charged with any crime despite likely committing many his whole life. Just like both Clintons committed many crimes... And Congessional or other investigations, per usual, never led to any significant charges against either.

                  And I wrote here, this Mueller thing will lead to nothing against DT.
                  So to me one possibility is that the Buzzfeed revelation is true and Mueller then revealed his PsyOP--to make sure Trump is not charged with any serious crime.

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                  • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    Can Trump be trusted to keep his word? He just went back on the deal they previously had to avoid the shutdown because he listened to Coulter and Limbaugh.
                    Try again.

                    The Democrats have already lied about this very issue back in the Reagan years.

                    Reagan cut a deal with the Democrats to give amnesty in exchange for a beefed up border.

                    Reagan kept his word, and the Democrats never even brought to the floor a bill for beefing up the border.

                    As to Trump, he never went back on his word as what was on the table was an OFFER, not a deal that both sides had agreed to.

                    Your team never accepted that deal, so eventually Trump took it off the table.

                    You'd think a Gotcha! player like yourself should know the difference.

                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    Now Coulter is *****ing and complaining again. Hard to negotiate with a guy like Trump who doesn't keep his end of the deal.
                    Again, no deal was made and thus there was no end to keep.

                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    Secondly this is a deal made between Trump and McConnell. That means the other side weren't involved in this deal. So this is a negotiating starting point. The other side will counter with an offer.
                    Lmfao!!!!

                    Your team wasnt involved because they refused to negotiate!!!

                    They were too busy on junkets with rich donors in Hawaii and then Puerto Rico to negotiate.

                    Son, you gotta knock this cheerleading off.

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                    • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                      So if the Democrats got together amongst themselves and came up with a deal and told Trump:

                      "We'll give you $5 bil but we want PERMANENT DACA protections"

                      Would you call that a good deal for Trump and expect him to accept it without any negotiations?
                      Who knows.

                      And since your team flat out refuses to come to the negotiating table, we may never know.

                      Son, you cant expect to get a deal without showing up to negotiate.


                      Your father should have taught you this......oh wait, my bad.

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