OFFICIAL: Donald Trump thread.

[Stebs]

Obama (D) – 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences.

Bush, George W. (R) – 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences.

Clinton (D) – 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. One Impeachment

Bush, George H. W. (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence.

Reagan (R) – 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences.

Carter (D) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences.

Ford (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence.

Nixon (R) – 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences.

Johnson (D) – 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences.

Trump (R) (so far) -7 indictments. 6 convictions... And counting.

"The Party of Law and Order"

Obama was the black golden boy who no one could touch without being called a racist, the standards were lowered for that bum and you know it just like everyone else knows it. Affirmative action at it's worst.

[man down]

Man Im going to have to go all in on this one. I dont have time right now, later peeps. Seen ya then.

[COVID-19]

Experts Agree: Robert Mueller Just Played Donald Trump Like a Fiddle

Experts Agree: Robert Mueller Just Played Donald Trump Like a Fiddle



Experts Agree: Robert Mueller Just Played Donald Trump Like a Fiddle
by Colin Kalmbacher | 11:02 am, November 29th, 2018

President Donald Trump‘s longtime lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty on Thursday to making several false statements in front of Congress. During an early morning appearance at a downtown Manhattan courthouse, Cohen admitted to making intentionally false statements about several matters related to Trump’s business dealings. This turn of events suggests that Robert Mueller intentionally leveled a surprise attack against the 45th president of the United States.

Why’s that? It’s all about the timeline here.

President Trump just last week submitted a series of written answers to several questions posed by the special counsel’s office. These questions were strictly related to one prong of Mueller’s wide-ranging inquiry: Russian electoral interference during the 2016 presidential campaign. That is, Trump’s answers about alleged obstruction of justice have yet to be received–and are not expected to be provided in written form for that matter.

Cohen’s plea more or less comes immediately after Mueller’s team took the time to review Trump’s on the record statements–statements made under penalty of perjury. And legal experts say that’s no coincidence.

CNN legal analyst Ross Garber was one of the first to raise the timing issue via Twitter.

“Timing of Cohen plea (right after Trump turned in answers) may be more than coincidental,” he wrote. “Mueller might not have wanted to tip his hand before answers were provided.”

MSNBC’s justice and security analyst Matthew Miller had essentially the same thoughts.

“Feels like Mueller was waiting for Trump to turn his answers in before he moved to the next phase, and now that he has them, the other shoes are starting to drop,” Miller wrote on Twitter. “Cohen first, then Corsi, Stone, and….?”

And then it was off to the presidential imperilment races.

CNN’s senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin chimed in on his network just a few moments later to suggest that it was indeed no coincidence that Cohen’s plea comes just on the heels of Trump’s written statements being turned in.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington’s chair and former Obama White House ethics attorney Norm Eisen was quick to try and settle the issue.

“Friends, no coincidence that the Cohen deal implicating Trump personally in Russia contacts during campaign is announced just AFTER Mueller locked Trump in on collusion in writing–& just BEFORE Trump will be face to face with Putin,” Eisen predicted. “As I have said all along: Bob loves surprises.”

As for those Russia contacts? As for Trump? They are indeed interspersed throughout Cohen’s plea agreement.

Former solicitor general Neal Katyal noted that “Cohen’s plea evidently has Trump all over the document including three discussions with Trump.” For more on the specific Russia-and-Trump-related aspects of Cohen’s plea agreement see Law&Crime’s additional coverage here.

And these are just initial reactions–strictly based on the timeline theory of how endangered Trump likely is here. Experts have also long-cautioned that Michael Cohen poses a particular and outsize threat to Donald Trump’s empire of dirt.

Aside from the timeline and source of Trump’s danger here, there is least one additional and key fact about Thursday’s plea–to whom it was technically made.

Recall: Cohen has been in the cross-hairs of both Mueller and prosecutors with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) for quite some time. He’s been working with the SDNY specifically as a cooperating witness since late this past summer–absent a traditional cooperation agreement; Cohen previously suggested his work with the SDNY was a matter of civic duty.

Cohen’s Thursday guilty plea, however, comes with a more standard cooperation agreement–from Mueller’s team.

Again, Katyal:

Hmmm. Significant that the plea is to charges from Mueller, not SDNY prosecutors. Once this happens today, the Mueller probe has now resulted in the guilty conviction of the President’s former top lawyer. https://t.co/O9kFbENOlt

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) November 29, 2018


https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...like-a-fiddle/

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

Trump claims that Cohen is lying

Few hours later, Trump’s lawyers claim that he isn’t

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/u...ump-tower.html

These idiots can’t even get their stories straight

Funny how history records everything though....

[1bad65]

Back to Trump.....

Ok, so Michael Cohen plead guilty today to lying under oath. I see the typical superfans, led by my son, are celebrating this and for umpteenth time crowing how "We got Trump this time!"

But Cohen's plea has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Nothing whatsoever.

The 'lie' is in relation to Trump's business dealings, namely him possibly building a Trump Tower in Moscow.

Now keep in mind, that business deal was 100% legal to do.

Trump was in negotiations with the Russians over that building prior to running for President.

While running, Trump was still in negotiations. Now Trump later ended negotiations, saying he had to concentrate on his election campaign iirc.

Cohen's lie was in relation to when Trump ended negotiations on the potential building project.

There's nothing illegal about the project, so this guilty plea to me means zilch.

Cohen lied about something, in this case the potential building project, that's not even a crime in the first place.

Now if any of you superfans want to explain to me how specifically this plea deal is the coming end of Trump, I'm all ears.

[Rockin']

So, now that the Russian Obstruction has been proven to be nothing but bullsheiit when do the trials of Treason begin? …….Rockin'

[Rockin']

So, now that the Russian Obstruction has been proven to be nothing but bullsheiit when do the trials of Treason begin? …….Rockin'

You'll see…….Rockin'

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

[HOUDINI563]

The point is when we have a Republican President there are many many more indictments on average. Very very few with a Democratic President. Really says it all. Republicans are the “false reality” party. They need to make their own reality and then convince the stupid people it is in fact reality in order to succeed.

[Motorcity Cobra]

This is what I think happened

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 29, 2018

And if you look at my quote below from the first page I said they're too stupid to collude with Russia. Roger Stone, Sam Nunberg, Corsi, Cohen, Lewandowski??? These are not smart people. Trump himself isn't smart but he's a showman and self promoter. You say well if he isn't so smart how did he win? You don't have to be smart to run on populism (with a sprinkle of racism). A smart person knows you can't govern by populism.

For the record I've always said Trump was too stupid to collude with Russia. The subject line on Jr's email said "Russia - Clinton - private and confidential." ffs. Kushner talked about setting up a back channel with the Russian ambassador. That idea was so crazy the Russian ambassador thought he was being set up. These guys are not very smart.

It's Manafort, Page, and Flynn you have to watch out for. They understood how easy it is to fool Trump and take advantage of him and they most likely did.