OFFICIAL: Donald ***** thread.

[siablo14]

That statue explains what can't be considered personal money when it comes to campaigns.



Cohen paid Daniels to keep quiet just days before the election as Giuliani stated because they didn't want her story influencing the election. It doesn't matter if ***** repaid him thru his personal funds. That's not considered personal funds according to the FEC.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-...ans-candidate/

You really had to post that for him again?

Did he not read it or is this another example of his poor understanding skills?

[Motorcity Cobra]

I wish more ***** supporters would be this honest

Woke up this morning in the same place I've always been: I don't believe anything ***** says. I never have. I only believe the things that get done.

When I voted for him, I knew he was a dishonest scumbag. I voted for him because he wasn't Hillary and I wanted the wall built.

— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) May 3, 2018

[1bad65]

Interest or not doesn't matter. You can loan someone money and repay back the exact amount. But even Rudy said ***** paid him back a little extra for profit and to cover taxes Which is weird because even if ***** gave him money to cover taxes Cohen still has to declare that money and pay taxes on it.

Again, nothing about a "loan".

I'm sure it was declared, as Giuliani said Cohen was put on retainer, paid very well for it. That's how they "funneled" the money. It was done legally.

The reason it was funneled was to hide it from the wife and the political opposition, not the tax man.

You'll notice the IRS isn't involved.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Again, nothing about a "loan".

I'm sure it was declared, as Giuliani said Cohen was put on retainer, paid very well for it. That's how they "funneled" the money. It was done legally.

The reason it was funneled was to hide it from the wife and the political opposition, not the tax man.

You'll notice the IRS isn't involved.

What does repay mean?
re·pay
rəˈpā/Submit
verb
pay back (a loan, debt, or sum of money).
"the loans were to be repaid over a 20-year period"
synonyms: reimburse, refund, pay back/off, recompense, compensate, indemnify More
pay back money borrowed from (someone).
"most of his fortune had been spent repaying creditors"
do or give something as recompense for (a favor or kindness received).
"the manager has given me another chance and I'm desperate to repay that faith"
synonyms: reciprocate, return, requite, recompense, reward
"I'd like to repay her generosity"



Of course the IRS isn't involved because this info just came out yesterday.

[1bad65]

What does repay mean?
re·pay
rəˈpā/Submit
verb
pay back (a loan, debt, or sum of money).
"the loans were to be repaid over a 20-year period"
synonyms: reimburse, refund, pay back/off, recompense, compensate, indemnify More
pay back money borrowed from (someone).
"most of his fortune had been spent repaying creditors"
do or give something as recompense for (a favor or kindness received).
"the manager has given me another chance and I'm desperate to repay that faith"
synonyms: reciprocate, return, requite, recompense, reward
"I'd like to repay her generosity"

Of course the IRS isn't involved because this info just came out yesterday.

Exactly.

Try and keep up here.


You're playing semantics. Fortunately, our legal system doesn't (generally) work that way.

You ain't impeaching a President over semantics.

Keep grasping.....

[Motorcity Cobra]

Exactly.

Try and keep up here.


You're playing semantics. Fortunately, our legal system doesn't (generally) work that way.

You ain't impeaching a President over semantics.

Keep grasping.....

No semantics. The facts are ***** repaid Cohen for a payment he made to influence the outcome of an election. As Rudy as stated. Those are the facts.

[1bad65]

No semantics. The facts are ***** repaid Cohen for a payment he made to shut up some chick ***** nailed a decade ago. As Rudy as stated. Those are the facts.

Yup.

Them's the facts.

I don't see a crime, however.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Feds tapped ***** lawyer Michael Cohen's phones
At least one phone call between a phone line associated with Cohen and the White House was intercepted, a source said.

Federal investigators have wiretapped the phone lines of Michael Cohen, the longtime personal lawyer for President Donald ***** who is under investigation for a payment he made to an adult film star who alleged she had an affair with *****, according to two people with knowledge of the legal proceedings involving Cohen.

It is not clear how long the wiretap has been authorized, but NBC News has learned it was in place in the weeks leading up to the raids on Cohen's offices, hotel room, and home in early April, according to one person with direct knowledge.

At least one phone call between a phone line associated with Cohen and the White House was intercepted, the person said.

Previously, federal prosecutors in New York have said in court filings that they have conducted covert searches on multiple e-mail accounts maintained by Cohen.

Spokespeople for the U.S. Attorney's Office and the FBI in New York declined comment.

After the raid, members of *****'s legal team advised the president not to speak to Cohen, according to a person familiar with the discussion.

Two sources close to *****'s newest attorney, Rudolph Giuliani, say he learned that days after the raid the president had made a call to Cohen, and told ***** never to call again out of concern the call was being recorded by prosecutors.

Giuliani told Fox News Wednesday night that ***** repaid Cohen the $130,000 he used to keep the adult film star, Stormy Daniels, from going public with allegations about her affair with *****.

Giuliani is also described as having warned ***** that Cohen is likely to flip on him, something ***** pushed back on, telling Giuliani that he has known Cohen for years and expects him to be loyal, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the conversations.

Giuliani and a lawyer for Cohen, Steve Ryan, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The White House referred NBC News to outside counsel.

It is unclear what incriminating information Cohen could give prosecutors on *****, if he chose to cooperate. He represented ***** and the ***** Organization in its business dealings for nearly two decades before ***** became president. Special counsel Robert Mueller is interested in any information that federal investigators in New York may pick up that would be relevant to his investigation into possible collusion between the ***** campaign and ******.

Cohen has previously said publicly that he would invoke his Fifth Amendment rights if subpoenaed to avoid incriminating himself before a grand jury and there is no indication from public filings that Cohen is cooperating in the probe.

The Cohen investigation is being led by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan and the FBI. Investigators are looking into the $130,000 transaction between Cohen and adult film star Stormy Daniels, also known as Stephanie Clifford, who allegedly had an affair with ***** more than a decade ago, and a reported payment of S150,000 from American Media Inc., publishers of the National Enquirer, to a second woman who allegedly had an affair with *****, Playboy model Karen McDougal.

The White House has denied allegations of the affairs.

Investigators are also seeking information about the 2005"Access Hollywood" tape in which Donald ***** was heard making vulgar boasts about women.

The bureau's interest in the "Access Hollywood" tape, on which ***** bragged to host Billy Bush that he would grab women "by the p---y," was first reported by the New York Times. "Access Hollywood" is an NBC Universal television program.

Material seized from Cohen's office, hotel room and home included taped conversations, as well as cellphones and hard drives.

Cohen has asserted in court that much of the material gleaned in the raids should be protected from the eyes of prosecutors under attorney-client privilege.

Former U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg, now an NBC News analyst, says there's a high bar for having a wiretap approved.

"The affidavits are typically highly detailed and carefully vetted by experienced lawyers," he said. "In all cases the wiretap must be approved by a federal judge."

Rosenberg said that wiretaps are usually approved for an investigation into a current crime and not solely for possible crimes that have been committed in the past.

"This is an exacting process where the government must demonstrate to a federal judge that there is an ongoing crime."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...phones-n871011

[Motorcity Cobra]

Yup.

Them's the facts.

I don't see a crime, however.

Not considered the candidate's personal funds
Personal gifts and loans
If any person, including a relative or friend of the candidate, gives or loans the candidate money “for the purpose of influencing any election for federal office,” the funds are not considered personal funds of the candidate even if they are given to the candidate directly. Instead, the gift or loan is considered a contribution from the donor to the campaign, subject to the per-election limit and reportable by the campaign. This is true even if the candidate uses the funds for personal living expenses while campaigning.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-...ans-candidate/

[1bad65]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...phones-n871011

There you go with those "anonymous sources" again.