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CNN video saying facts first 
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Gruber didn't call them stupid for nothing.
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Originally posted by 1bad65 View PostYou rambling. You're incoherent. The noose is tightening and you're burying your head in the sand. Two things Trump has not spoken aboutOriginally posted by 1bad65 View PostAnd nowhere in all that do they cite sources.
You're just not going to ever get it, are you?
1. The NYT story that the investigation began fro Pap's loose lips
2. Reports that Russia is shipping oil to N. Korea. But he was quick to say something about China shipping oil to N. Korea
Caught RED HANDED - very disappointed that China is allowing oil to go into North Korea. There will never be a friendly solution to the North Korea problem if this continues to happen!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 28, 2017
The dude is an agent. I didn't want to believe it at first but it's becoming clearer and clearer.Comment
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Op-ed by Fusion GPS
(I'll post the full thing since I have a NYT subscription and ya'll don't
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Now this is all in their testimony to congress. If they'e lying congress can prove so by releasing the full testimony. The ball in in Congress court.A generation ago, Republicans sought to protect President Richard Nixon by urging the Senate Watergate committee to look at supposed wrongdoing by Democrats in previous elections. The committee chairman, Sam Ervin, a Democrat, said that would be “as foolish as the man who went bear hunting and stopped to chase rabbits.”
Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we’re their favorite quarry.
In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.
We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.
Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.
We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump’s complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.
Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.
We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.
The intelligence committees have known for months that credible allegations of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia were pouring in from independent sources during the campaign. Yet lawmakers in the thrall of the president continue to wage a cynical campaign to portray us as the unwitting victims of Kremlin disinformation.
We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.
We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.
We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.
Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust. We first learned of that meeting from news reports last year — and the committees know it. They also know that these Russians were unaware of the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s work for us and were not sources for his reports.
Yes, we hired Mr. Steele, a highly respected Russia expert. But we did so without informing him whom we were working for and gave him no specific marching orders beyond this basic question: Why did Mr. Trump repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state that most serious investors shun?
What came back shocked us. Mr. Steele’s sources in Russia (who were not paid) reported on an extensive — and now confirmed — effort by the Kremlin to help elect Mr. Trump president. Mr. Steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the F.B.I.
We did not discuss that decision with our clients, or anyone else. Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.
After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.
We’re extremely proud of our work to highlight Mr. Trump’s Russia ties. To have done so is our right under the First Amendment.
It is time to stop chasing rabbits. The public still has much to learn about a man with the most troubling business past of any United States president. Congress should release transcripts of our firm’s testimony, so that the American people can learn the truth about our work and most important, what happened to our democracy.
Glenn R. Simpson and Peter Fritsch, both former journalists, are the founders of the research firm Fusion GPS.Comment
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You see how you can be a Trump supporter and still want the truth to come out? That's called patriotism. Country before party.Originally posted by 1bad65 View PostGruber didn't call them stupid for nothing.
EVERY American should be angry that Russia interfered with our election, EVERY American should want to find out if there was collusion, and EVERY American should support Robert Mueller's search for the truth.
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) January 3, 2018
Too bad for our country that this isn't the case.
In new book, Bannon says on Trump Jr/Kushner/Manafort Trump Tower meeting: “Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.” https://t.co/ldZD7ZMM4n
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 3, 2018
Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 01-03-2018, 09:38 AM.Comment
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Funny how back when the Russians were Communists the leftist ****tards were screaming how we shouldn't be afraid of the Russians and the Russians just wanted to fill the world with peace and love. Now that the Russians aren't Communist anymore the leftist ****tards are screaming "OMG THE RUSSIANS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!" Coincidence? I think not.....Comment
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In new book, Bannon says on Trump Jr/Kushner/Manafort Trump Tower meeting: “Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.” https://t.co/ldZD7ZMM4n
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 3, 2018
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.Comment
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EVERY American should be angry that Russia interfered with our election, EVERY American should want to find out if there was collusion, and EVERY American should support Robert Mueller's search for the truth.
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) January 3, 2018
Too bad for our country that this isn't the case.
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What? How can you say it doesn't matter? When 9 out of 16 have donated to Hillary/Obama, you can't tell me there's no conflict of interest. When an FBI agent says they are setting up "an insurance policy" in the event Trump is elected, you cannot tell me there is no conflict of interest for Mueller's team.Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
Things are getting messy and it's looking more and more like there was collusion within the DOJ:
The Justice Department and FBI officials involved included Bruce Ohr. He has been demoted from his former position of associate deputy attorney general because he had unauthorized contacts with Fusion GPS, the Democratic National Committee-paid firm responsible for the Steele dossier.
Ohr’s wife worked at Fusion GPS at the time. Other people reassigned include: James Baker, the FBI’s general counsel during 2016; and Peter Strzok, the bureau’s No. 2 counterintelligence official.
Strzok was largely responsible for kick-starting the FBI’s original probe into the Trump campaign. He was later assigned to Mueller’s special counsel staff. However, he was forced out after it was revealed that he exchanged 375 virulently anti-Trump text messages with fellow FBI agent Lisa Page, who was also on Mueller’s team.
Strzok also apparently attended meetings in the office of Deputy Director Andrew McCabe discussing how to stop Trump. And McCabe’s wife received $700,000 from close Hillary Clinton allies when running for the state legislature in Virginia in 2015. Last month it was reported that McCabe will soon be retiring.
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It doesn't matter what their political leanings are because if they don't have evidence they can't build a case. Facts and evidence matter in a court of law. They could've donated to Kim Jong Un for all I care, if they don't have evidence they don't have a case. Only facts and evidence matter in a court of law. Who you voted for or donated to means nothing. It's that simple.Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostComment
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Where was Walsh when Hillary was lying through her teeth every step of the way? Where was Walsh's outrage over his own country's DOJ/FBI corruption? How about Tapper?Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
Meanwhile...
When 9 out of 16 members of Mueller's investigative team have donated to Hillary/Obama, you can't tell me there's no conflict of interest. If a black man was on trial for the murder of a white man, and 8 of the 12 jurors were KKK members along with the prosecutor and his state appointed attorney, you can't tell me there's no conflict of interest.
When an FBI agent says they are setting up "an insurance policy" in the event Trump is elected, you cannot tell me there is no conflict of interest on Mueller's team.
Things are getting messy and it's looking more and more like there was collusion within the DOJ:
The Justice Department and FBI officials involved included Bruce Ohr. He has been demoted from his former position of associate deputy attorney general because he had unauthorized contacts with Fusion GPS, the Democratic National Committee-paid firm responsible for the Steele dossier.
Ohr’s wife worked at Fusion GPS at the time. Other people reassigned include: James Baker, the FBI’s general counsel during 2016; and Peter Strzok, the bureau’s No. 2 counterintelligence official.
Strzok was largely responsible for kick-starting the FBI’s original probe into the Trump campaign. He was later assigned to Mueller’s special counsel staff. However, he was forced out after it was revealed that he exchanged 375 virulently anti-Trump text messages with fellow FBI agent Lisa Page, who was also on Mueller’s team.
Strzok also apparently attended meetings in the office of Deputy Director Andrew McCabe discussing how to stop Trump. And McCabe’s wife received $700,000 from close Hillary Clinton allies when running for the state legislature in Virginia in 2015. Last month it was reported that McCabe will soon be retiring.
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