OFFICIAL: Donald Trump thread.

[1bad65]

Hillary paid for notorious 'golden showers' dossier on Trump: Her campaign lawyer funded dirty tricks firm's research into his Russian links which came up with discredited claims


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ier-Trump.html

Lmao!!!

The Democrats demanded investigations into collusion with Russia, and then the investigation snared the Democrats.

Kharma supreme!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

For the economy to run smoothly the wealth that is created some be spread around. I am not saying everyone should have equal wages but a huge percentage of the wealth generated in the economy shouldn't be strictly at the top. High inequality has other unintended consequences.

Don't side track with Bob's other views stay on course.

Lmao

People should keep what they earn..


Money doesn't need to be "spread" around, it needs to be earned..


See liberals broke this years ago when they gave deadbeats money and "spread it around" and now you have generational welfare and families of deadbeats "demanding" money from strangers

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Jobs are dropping due to automation too. Some companies will use machines to take the place of workers. Like when you go to CVS, Walmart, Target, Kroger, etc they have more self check out machines instead of actual cashiers. But really I believe what Brometheus is trying to say, is that when 1bad65 and Lefthooktua say that the tax cut to the wealthy will cause more growth in the economy because the rich will supposedly spend more or invest more, the article that Brometheus posted shows that that hasn't really been happening.

Adam, do think tax cuts to the rich will spark huge growth in the economy at this time?

1bad65, will come in and say but Reagan times, doe.

Jobs aren't created by tax policy, but they can be destroyed by tax policy..

Still the main factor has been the liberals selling out the unions and workers and allowing companies to use cheap 3rd world labor thru trade acts

A CEO's pay literally has no bearing on job creation, it's a fallacy and a liberal talking point, so of course the sheep like bob will repeat it.

[BrometheusBob.]

Jobs aren't created by tax policy, but they can be destroyed by tax policy..

Still the main factor has been the liberals selling out the unions and workers and allowing companies to use cheap 3rd world labor thru trade acts

A CEO's pay literally has no bearing on job creation, it's a fallacy and a liberal talking point, so of course the sheep like bob will repeat it.

This comment continues to demonstrate that you did not understand what I was saying. Like at all.

[1bad65]

Still the main factor has been the liberals selling out the unions and workers and allowing companies to use cheap 3rd world labor thru trade acts

A CEO's pay literally has no bearing on job creation, it's a fallacy and a liberal talking point, so of course the sheep like bob will repeat it.

Gruber didn't call them "stupid" for nothing.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Profitable companies that have an effective tax rate of under 20% have experienced a negative median change in terms of jobs over the last several years. Awesome.

Conclusion: Let's cut taxes across the board for businesses, it will definitely promote growth.







https://www.ips-dc.org/report-corpor...-pay-not-jobs/

this report ... analyzed the job creation records of the 92 publicly held U.S. corporations that reported a U.S. profit every year from 2008 through 2015 and paid less than 20 percent of these earnings in federal income tax.
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America’s 92 most consistently profitable tax-dodging firms registered median jobgrowth of negative 1 percent between 2008 and 2016. The job growth rate over those same years among U.S. private sector firms as a whole: 6 percent.
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More than half of the 92 tax-avoiders, 48 firms in all, eliminated jobs between 2008 and 2016, downsizing by a combined total of 483,000 positions.
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Average CEO pay among the 92 firms rose 18 percent
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Many of the firms in our sample funneled tax savings into stock buybacks, a financial maneuver that inflates the value of executive stock-based pay. On average, the top 10 job-cutters in our sample each spent $45 billion over the last nine years repurchasing their own stock, six times as much as the S&P 500 corporate average.

This comment continues to demonstrate that you did not understand what I was saying. Like at all.

No this is you backtracking.. just like you did when you thought IP rights wasn't a capitalism benefit and thought socialist/communist countries have them.


Here is your own posts


Notice how you complain about CEO pay rising, stock buybacks, etc

You literally lay out that corporate taxes should be higher, because CEO pay has gone up, and jobs are down, and the government needs to take away the EARNED money from these companies, because jobs are down.

It's all right there in your posts, maybe you don't understand the posts you write?

I understood quite clear

[BrometheusBob.]

this report ... analyzed the job creation records of the 92 publicly held U.S. corporations that reported a U.S. profit every year from 2008 through 2015 and paid less than 20 percent of these earnings in federal income tax.
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America’s 92 most consistently profitable tax-dodging firms registered median jobgrowth of negative 1 percent between 2008 and 2016. The job growth rate over those same years among U.S. private sector firms as a whole: 6 percent.
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More than half of the 92 tax-avoiders, 48 firms in all, eliminated jobs between 2008 and 2016, downsizing by a combined total of 483,000 positions.
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Average CEO pay among the 92 firms rose 18 percent
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Many of the firms in our sample funneled tax savings into stock buybacks, a financial maneuver that inflates the value of executive stock-based pay. On average, the top 10 job-cutters in our sample each spent $45 billion over the last nine years repurchasing their own stock, six times as much as the S&P 500 corporate average.





No this is you backtracking.. just like you did when you thought IP rights wasn't a capitalism benefit and thought socialist/communist countries have them.


Here is your own posts


Notice how you complain about CEO pay rising, stock buybacks, etc

You literally lay out that corporate taxes should be higher, because CEO pay has gone up, and jobs are down, and the government needs to take away the EARNED money from these companies, because jobs are down.

It's all right there in your posts, maybe you don't understand the posts you write?

I understood quite clear

Again, my problem isn't with how much more the execs earned. I'm just explaining what they did with the money instead of promoting growth.

If they instead used the extra money to set on fire to have daily bonfires and cut jobs, I'd also have the same problem with that. That doesn't mean I have some moral principled belief that bonfires are bad, rather it means that I have a problem with the cutting jobs part.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Again, my problem isn't what they did with the money. I'm just explaining what they did with the money.

If they used the extra money to set on fire to have daily bonfires and cut jobs, I'd also have the same problem with that. Not I have some moral principled belief that bonfires are bad, but because I have a problem with them cutting jobs.

Who cares about job cuts for a private company... they aren't even really cutting jobs, as they are cutting labor law protected jobs and moving them to 3rd world for cheap, nonlabor law, labor..


And again, why do you care what companies do with the money they EARN?

[BrometheusBob.]

Who cares about job cuts for a private company... they aren't even really cutting jobs, as they are cutting labor law protected jobs and moving them to 3rd world for cheap, nonlabor law, labor..


And again, why do you care what companies do with the money they EARN?

?!?!? Because I care about the economic state of my dam country? It's weird that I even have to explain this.

I am not saying we should force them to do other things with their money. I'm trying to demonstrate how cutting taxes will not lead to promoting growth, which is how Trump is selling his tax plan.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

?!?!? Because I care about the economic state of my dam country? It's weird that I even have to explain this.

I am not saying we should force them to do other things with their money. I'm trying to demonstrate how cutting taxes will not lead to promoting growth, which is how Trump is selling his tax plan.

How does economy grow when government takes money away?

How does keeping more money in the economy, devoid it of growth?


Get rid of those labor laws or trade acts? Which one?