Ben Carson shuts down the liberal media...because he's right

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If you just sit there and wait to die you die.

Again trying too hard. Nobody id discussing toughness. You don't try to tackle a lunatic who is about to shoot you to be "tough".

[The Noose]

I'm ex law enforcement if someone was pointing a gun at me saying they were going to kill me I would probably react.

If only all high school students were ex law enforcement.

It has nothing to do with toughness or imitating your favorite boxer. You don't have time to think about that.

I mean at a certain point you have to think "HMMMM seems I'm next to be shot in the face" and muster some resistance

I bet even you would, just the fact that you watch boxing would probably kick on some "screw it" effort to defend yourself

So in a situation where you dont have time to think, you would think "screw it", because you watch boxing, and rush the shooter?

It's a split second fight or flight response and most modern people have been programmed to just wait in their chair and watch the movie play out. Physical conflict and death are equally foreign to them, they just sit there.

Yea. Back in the old days when there werent any high school shootings, it made fantasising about being a hero much easier.

If you just sit there and wait to die you die.

Again trying too hard. Nobody id discussing toughness.You don't try to tackle a lunatic who is about to shoot you to be "tough".

No. You do it, because you have watched boxing.

[TheStranger]

Doctors are trained not to treat symptoms but to identify the cause or disease. So Carson's solution to gun violence in America is to identify the shooters beforehand based on similar warning signs they exhibit. That's a good idea but unlikely to cause any significant changes. It's like trying to identify people who are going to commit suicide. It's a good idea and there are things to identify but it ultimately has a negligible effect on the actual number of suicides.
A lot of rhetoric coming from the right is meant to circumvent the reality that (barring some form of foreign or domestic invasion) a highly armed country is not a particularly safe to place to live. That's what other countries are thinking about us if we're being honest. They're not thinking, hmmm they need to do a better job of identifying the potentially dangerous mentally ill. They can see the real source of our problem that the right will never admit to (because they are ideologues who think that the Constitution is infallible in its inception).
There's going to be a lot more shootings. Things are going to get worse before they get better.

[Canelo Phresh]

Lol you don't know anything about Greece. It has been a mismanaged mess for decades. Has nothing to do with socialism. You think it got that way since tsipras took over?

Here's one article to help you out, but it goes back much further.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10381926.html

Shut up you twit! You never responded to the post referencing different reactions for two completely different situations involving armed men. Thus, conceding that your false outrage at Dr. Carson is just that.

[El-blanco]

McCain surrendered, he didn't throw his fellow soldier under the bus like Carson did with the cashier. What Carson did was cowardly. I'd have more respect for him if he just shut his mouth and gave up his possessions. Instead he pointed the gunman to someone else which is a b1tch move. So, not only did he do nothing to stop the guy, he pointed someone else out who would be a better victim. For some reason you guys keep ignoring that aspect, and think that because someone else acted heroically that that somehow applies to what Carson would do in the same situation. Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

Shut up you twit! You never responded to the post referencing different reactions for two completely different situations involving armed men. Thus, conceding that your false outrage at Dr. Carson is just that.

I was done talking to you because you're a religious ******. But the answer above should answer your stupid question. You don't know anything about the world you broke hillbilly, stick to debating with fellow creationist ******s.

[Canelo Phresh]

I was done talking to you because you're a religious ******. But the answer above should answer your stupid question. You don't know anything about the world you broke hillbilly, stick to debating with fellow creationist ******s.

You know your wrong, you know your fake outrage has been exposed, and you can't even defend your own logic, because your barely smart enough to know when to shut the fuck up. I'm done with you.

[El-blanco]

You know your wrong, you know your fake outrage has been exposed, and you can't even defend your own logic, because your barely smart enough to know when to shut the fuck up. I'm done with you.

Is this a joke? Two out of four ain't bad for a creationist.

My argument is very sound. I used an example of what Carson did in a similar situation to illustrate why he is a coward and would never stand up to anyone. In fact, chances are he'd throw someone under the bus to save himself like he did in Popeyes. Your evidence for why he would charge an attacker is based on an example of what someone else did. You're so simple minded you can't even see how weak your argument is, and the worst part is, you actually believe you're right. You never developed critical thinking skills, nor do you understand what a sound argument is.

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If only all high school students were ex law enforcement.





So in a situation where you dont have time to think, you would think "screw it", because you watch boxing, and rush the shooter?




Yea. Back in the old days when there werent any high school shootings, it made fantasising about being a hero much easier.


No. You do it, because you have watched boxing.

In a situation where you don't have time to think, your training/instincts kick in, or your brain imitates familiar imagery.

Where did I say the victims were bad irredeemable people? I said modern humans in general suffer from sit-and-watch programming, are so sheltered from violence that they don't know its utility. That's as scary as the shooters themselves because it enables such high death tolls.

For the final time not everything is a subliminal toughness contest.

I do believe that in a fantasy world where it wouldn't result in mass lawsuits, teaching kids mandatory self-defense/life preservation skills in school would be beneficial to society.

Remarks about the media itself were a separate topic -- they caused the prevalence of the shootings by turning Columbine into a trend and delving into the personal lives of the shooters ala celebrity tabloids.

[The Noose]

In a situation where you don't have time to think, your training/instincts kick in, or your brain imitates familiar imagery.

Like boxing?

Where did I say the victims were bad irredeemable people?

Where did i say you said the victims were bad irredeemable people?

I said modern humans in general suffer from sit-and-watch programming, are so sheltered from violence that they don't know its utility. That's as scary as the shooters themselves because it enables such high death tolls.

Im curious about what you term "modern humans". Do you have examples of people in the past who would of instinctively rushed a shooter?

I do believe that in a fantasy world where it wouldn't result in mass lawsuits, teaching kids mandatory self-defense/life preservation skills in school would be beneficial to society.

Im sold on your fantasy world.
My fantasy worlds tend to be extremely sleazy.

[creekrat77]

I bet if one of these mass shooters got stabbed through the eye with a mechanical pencil, the copy cats might think twice about doing these atrocities. Not saying anybody in this particular situation had the opportunity to do so. Sounds like the guy came in ready to shoot anybody that looked suspicious. What Carson was saying was that if he were in that situation and was next up to be executed for being a Christian, he'd go out on his own terms. It's strange how everyone on here is so up in arms about going for broke in a dire situation