Driver shouting "Allahu Akbar" hits crowd of pedestrians in France

[Rostov Papa]

How old were you in your junior year?

Watch;

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I don't see any gas chambers so far? Just like I believe - a lot of dead people from disease and starvation. After the railways were destroyed, supplies could no longer come into the camps - so of course those treated as prisoners of war were last to get food and treatment. Cruel? Absolutely. "planned genocide"? Not so much...

The gas chamber I reember at Auschwitz was very small - couldn't have held more than one hundred people stacked shoulder to shoulder. And the door looked so flimsy? Like couldn't a room full of panickng peope stampede through that door?

[rorymac]

Was I not supposed to ask somethng I didn't understand?

Is there something wrong with asking a tour guide questions? Isn't that what they are there for?

You see - your brain works different. I'm more factual, and you're more emotional - like female.

You don't know that

[BattlingNelson]

I don't deny the holocaust. Clearly there is enough anecdotal and circumstantial evidence to show there was SOME "planned killing" of jews.

I reject aspects of the holocaust, though. For instance - I don't think there was ever a "master plan" to "genocide"Jewish people at the beginning.

I think overwhelming majority of Jewish people died from starvation, and disease. As after 1943, German infrastructure was bombed to oblivion, and it was hard to get food, adn medicine, etc. around. So of course those considered "prisoners of war" were last to get food, and medical treatment.


Obviously some jews were rounded up and shot en masse, and others executed.


I'm from USA - I went there on a school field trip my junior year. I kept asking myself "how the hell did so many people fit in this gas chamber"? And "couldn't they break down the damn door"? I mena, look what has happened in soccer stadiums when hundreds of peope panick... And how long does it take to burn a single body? How the hell dd they transport these 150 pound bodies that far, so efficiently?


I am inquisitive by nature, and always have to research things for myself. So when I started asking questions - the tour guide got frustrated with me, and my teacher told me to stop because I was being "offensive" by asking simple questions...


ANd moreove - WHY the hell are there laws in just about every European country forbidding mere academics to research the holocaust on their own? Why do they HAVE to accept what is always told? Why can't there be room for challenging this? WHY?

I do believe you are talking about an issue you have very little knowledge about.

[Rostov Papa]

You don't know that

Hahah I have a good enough idea.

I swear I got you pegged to a tee. I know your type.

[Rostov Papa]

I do believe you are talking about an issue you have very little knowledge about.

No sir - I am very knowledgeable on this issue.

Well - as knowledgeable as "we're allowed" to be. Since all the European academics who have tried to research the issue, and who want to present differing facts, get arrested and thrown in prison for years...

Just tell me - why do so many countries have laws against researching, and presenting a different side to the holocaust?

Why aren't any other historical events off-limits?

Again - I DO NOT deny the holocaust! Terrible things happened to Jews, among many others... However, I simply do not believe there was a "master plan" to "genocide" Jewish people via gas chambers. I don't think there's enough evidence to support that.

WHat I do believe is that hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of Jews were treated inhumanely, denied basic human rights, forced into labor (slavery, essentially), forced to continue in condtions that resulted in hundreds of thousands of jews starving to death, and dying of disease. I also believe there were thousands, maybe tens of thousands who were executed en masse.

You don't believe "they made soap" and "made lampshades" out of Jewish people do you? People still say this to ths day as if it's accepted as truth - when it's been proven as lies many times over.

[Rostov Papa]

You don't know that

I picture you looking like a chubbier version of the guy in your avi...

Or a not as good looking, and chubbier version of the guy who plays the evil teenage king in Game of Thrones.

[BattlingNelson]

No sir - I am very knowledgeable on this issue.

Well - as knowledgeable as "we're allowed" to be. Since all the European academics who have tried to research the issue, and who want to present differing facts, get arrested and thrown in prison for years...

Just tell me - why do so many countries have laws against researching, and presenting a different side to the holocaust?

Why aren't any other historical events off-limits?

Again - I DO NOT deny the holocaust! Terrible things happened to Jews, among many others... However, I simply do not believe there was a "master plan" to "genocide" Jewish people via gas chambers. I don't think there's enough evidence to support that.

WHat I do believe is that hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of Jews were treated inhumanely, denied basic human rights, forced into labor (slavery, essentially), forced to continue in condtions that resulted in hundreds of thousands of jews starving to death, and dying of disease. I also believe there were thousands, maybe tens of thousands who were executed en masse.

You don't believe "they made soap" and "made lampshades" out of Jewish people do you? People still say this to ths day as if it's accepted as truth - when it's been proven as lies many times over.

Instead of hijacking this thread, I suggest you make a topic expressing your views on the issue.

[Run]

Ah. The thread about a jihadi driver evolved into a full on holocaust denial debate. Very nice



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[Underboss]

France invaded and colonised Algeria, ruling it in an apartheid fashion for over a century (1830 - 1962), resulting in the killing countless 'muzzlims'. The French actively sought to convert citizens of Algeria away from Islam. Now the French are upset because they feel like they're losing their culture because a few muslims are trying to carve out a life in their country? You can't make this up.

Sweden and the Scandinavian countries have never invaded Muslim-runned countries as far as i'm aware, and their countries are over-runned by these people.

What's your point?

[UpInThisYo]

You guys don't know ***** about Islam. If you didn't support Israel, invade Iraq, etc., there wouldn't be so many Palestinians, lebanese, iraqis, etc. in Europe. You brought it upon yourselves, the Israeli evil that you're supporting is exposing the muslims to far worse than they're exposing you to.