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  • #31
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
    rockets are anything fired by internal propellants. while shells/bullets are fired by external propellants.

    size is irrelevant.

    yes. fireworks are rockets too.

    the rockets hamas are firing are artillery rockets.
    So they are nowhere near as big or dangerous as a German V2. Which, despite its now mythical deadliness, killed more Germans than Britons and proved only a minor irritant to Londoners.

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    • #32
      this is a UAE mlrs.

      it fires 122mm rockets. hamas has same and bigger ones.

      the older rockets carry a 20kg warhead or so and has a range of 20 km. newer rockets have bigger warheads and/or longer range. for comparison hellfire missiles used by apache attack helicopted carry only 8-9kg warheads and they use those to blow up tanks and buildings.

      they are very deadly if hamas knew how to use them.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
        So they are nowhere near as big or dangerous as a German V2. Which, despite its now mythical deadliness, killed more Germans than Britons and proved only a minor irritant to Londoners.
        bad comparison.

        those were technically ballistic/cruise missiles designed to cross the channel.

        a better comparison would be USSR katyusha rockets which were deadly and horrifying on the eastern front.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
          they are very deadly if hamas knew how to use them.
          So you're saying Hamas don't know how to use this "rocket" which isn't anywhere near as deadly as a German V2?

          Are they lighting the wrong end?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
            So they are nowhere near as big or dangerous as a German V2. Which, despite its now mythical deadliness, killed more Germans than Britons and proved only a minor irritant to Londoners.
            you don't understand weapons or tactics.

            a scud missile carries a 1,000kg warhead and can be fired hundreds of km away.

            a 122mm rocket has a range of only 20-45km with a 20kg warhead.

            which is more deadly?

            most will say the scud.

            but scuds need large silos, trucks, easier to find. easier to attack. not as prolific. takes longer to set up. and so on.

            a 122mm rocket is plentiful. easier to set up. has big enough warhead and range.

            that's why the iranians supplied them with it and not their versions of the scud.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
              So you're saying Hamas don't know how to use this "rocket" which isn't anywhere near as deadly as a German V2?

              Are they lighting the wrong end?
              firing rockets, like any form of artillery, takes precise calculation.

              that's why armies need officers who are college educated or academy trained to plot targets.

              hamas just points them in a direction and fires them.


              again, you have no grasp of the concept of what is deadly.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                ... again, you have no grasp of the concept of what is deadly.
                Whereas you are an undoubted expert on rocketry, guerilla tactics, Hamas, the IDF, Call of Duty II Black Ops, ARMA III and Minecraft mod v3.02 "Terror Tunnelling".

                ROFLMAO!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
                  Whereas you are an undoubted expert on rocketry, guerilla tactics, Hamas, the IDF, Call of Duty II Black Ops, ARMA III and Minecraft mod v3.02 "Terror Tunnelling".

                  ROFLMAO!!!
                  no expert.

                  but i know enough to know that you don't know what you're talking about.

                  and you shouldn't do that.

                  read up on a subject if you want to make a comment.

                  or at least don't be so argumentative on a topic you know little about.

                  that's what stupid ppl do.

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