The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun...

[Kamehameha]

I'd much rather run into your average angry gun owner than one of these crazy fools.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Nobody is going to kill 70+ people with a bow and arrow, I don't care if you are Robin Fukin Hood.

[rorymac]

Around where I'm at guns do serve a huge purpose, hunting. I also get annoyed with people who think they serve as a crime deterrent though.

Yeah they can obviously serve a purpose in that sense, I'm just trying to tell this guy that it's not a fair comparison.

[-jose-]

The thing is, I own a gun but that's my point of why the debate is over.

It's not about going back in time before guns and the atomic bomb, it's asking the question of, are these things needed in our society? Yes they have some benefits, but the negative aspect of them out weighs that.

I own a gun and it's for home use only. Why? Because I don't want someone coming in my house with a gun. That doesn't mean I will kill them, as a matter of fact, the stats show owning a gun means you are more susceptible to being shot.

It's like I'm a prisoner of this gun culture. If you can't beat them, join them. so now we are all like fukin Cowboys.

I think we're way past that question now in days

[Kamehameha]

Nobody is going to kill 70+ people with a bow and arrow, I don't care if you are Robin Fukin Hood.

As a weapon for mass murder guns win all day, as a crime deterrent I'd be more scared of taking an arrow.

[Jim Jeffries]

Do you think that humans would still be able to kill each other with the same efficiency without guns?

Properly motivated humans tend to find a way.



Considering the fact that murder rates in the US tend to be higher in those cities with the strictest gun control, that you will never eliminate every last civilian gun in this country, it's a bit of a silly question.

There was this interview that was done in the last days of Albert Einstein and he famously said he regretted the early work he had done in the development of Atomic energy because of what it became.

Even when asked about the benefits of atomic (that later turned into nuclear energy) he never changed his opinion. Reason being because he realized that the negative outweighed the positive and so is the same with guns.

Had we not developed the atomic bomb and won the war when we did, Germany's scientists (who were already very close when the war ended) would've given them the advantage to win WWII and change the course of history for the considerably worse.

Do guns save people's lives? Sure they have and will continue to.

Thanks for answering your own stupid question.

But if you took all the people who were murdered needlessly because of them and put them against a list of people who were saved by them, it wouldn't even be close.

[citation needed]

You pro gun people have won, so this debate IMO is useless.

If you really believed this, you wouldn't come out from behind your rock every time a gun debate comes up. You're also an anti-gun person who owns a gun (a Glock .40 cal even!,) which makes you a hypocrite.

Gun manufacturers and the NRA have managed to scare enough people so they can go out and by guns as an answer to everything.

I own a gun primarily because of the cartel members that live about a half a mile from my house on the other side of the Rio Grande, in Mexico. Other reasons include hunting every other year and occasional target practice.

They have been successful in the propaganda of making it PATRIOTIC to own a gun

Which orifice did you pull this out of?

and only wimpy, socialist liberals don't own them.

So you just own one in protest?

They have also made you believe that owning one makes you that much more safe.

Given that a call to 911 has a 30 minute minimum response for me, I believe it makes me safer. Which is all that matters.

All of these are lies

Most of them, at least the ones you made up, I agree.

stats show that and America is one of the most violent places on earth

Not nearly as violent as Mexico or Brazil (who together make up 25 of the 50 highest homicide rates in the world,) who have draconian gun laws. Get caught with a .22 bullet in Mexico next visit and see what happens to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_murder_rate

even though we are the most religious

We aren't, but what exactly does this have to do with anything?

and everyone and their mother is walking around with a gun.

Is this another one of those posts where you use extreme exaggeration to attempt to make a point?

So I think Piggy's point is a valid one, futile nonetheless, but valid. I would much rather live in a world without them but since we have handed them out like tic tacs, it's the wild fukin west in this mother fuker.

Yeeeee Hawwwwwww!!!!!

Lucky for you, you have dual citizenship, so you can choose to live in a country where guns are banned (Mexico.) I hear it is a murder free paradise.

[Kamehameha]

Properly motivated humans tend to find a way.

I own a gun primarily because of the cartel members that live about a half a mile from my house on the other side of the Rio Grande, in Mexico. Other reasons include hunting every other year and occasional target practice.

Given that a call to 911 has a 30 minute minimum response for me, I believe it makes me safer. Which is all that matters.

Your main reason for owning a firearm is so you can go Rambo on an entire criminal organization if the need arises? Is it really all that matters if statistics show that you're delusional in thinking you're safer by owning a firearm?

[-jose-]

You don't like firearms then don't ****ing buy one, plain and simple

If the US was split in 2 and all the responsible firearm owners were put on one side and the anti-gun liberals on the other side with all the gang bangers (that don't obey no mofoking laws and couldn't care less if guns were banned or not) with their illegal firearms where would you rather be?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

[QUOTE]

Properly motivated humans tend to find a way.

Way to avoid answering the question.

Considering the fact that murder rates in the US tend to be higher in those cities with the strictest gun control, that you will never eliminate every last civilian gun in this country, it's a bit of a silly question.

Out of the ten most Violent states in America, only Nevada was not in the South where there are very liberal gun laws. So again, how are guns helping to keep everyone safe?

Had we not developed the atomic bomb and won the war when we did, Germany's scientists (who were already very close when the war ended) would've given them the advantage to win WWII and change the course of history for the considerably worse.

HUMANS, not just Americans or Germans, HUMAN BEINGS. We shouldn't have nuclear or atomic technology, no matter who has it.

[citation needed]

Only an idiot would think more humans have been saved by guns than killed by them.

If you really believed this, you wouldn't come out from behind your rock every time a gun debate comes up. You're also an anti-gun person who owns a gun (a Glock .40 cal even!,) which makes you a hypocrite.

Not a hypocrite at all, just a slave to this society where we all have to carry them because someone can kill you for cutting them off in traffic.

I own a gun primarily because of the cartel members that live about a half a mile from my house on the other side of the Rio Grande, in Mexico. Other reasons include hunting every other year and occasional target practice.

Oh so now it's the Cartel members as to why we should have guns...lol you are a fukin joke and a zombie.

So you just own one in protest?

No, I own one so I can defend my family, from other how also have guns. Can't bring a knife to a gun fight right?

Given that a call to 911 has a 30 minute minimum response for me, I believe it makes me safer. Which is all that matters.

Well since it's stolen land you live on, too bad for you. Don't worry, I heard your Spanish is really good so you will adapt very well once the take over is complete.

Most of them, at least the ones you made up, I agree.

Stats don't lie, even though watching FoxNews and listening to a scumbag like Breitbart makes sense to me now as to why you are such a puto.

Not nearly as violent as Mexico or Brazil (who together make up 25 of the 50 highest homicide rates in the world,) who have draconian gun laws. Get caught with a .22 bullet in Mexico next visit and see what happens to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_murder_rate

"this place is worse so therefore we are doing just fine" real sound logic....

We aren't, but what exactly does this have to do with anything?

Per capita we are close to being the most religious country in the world. It has everything to do with it because you conservative people preach God, guns and country right? Well, that formula has created one of the most violent societies, and incarcerated 1% of it's population with no positive results.

Is this another one of those posts where you use extreme exaggeration to attempt to make a point?

Yup

Lucky for you, you have dual citizenship, so you can choose to live in a country where guns are banned (Mexico.) I hear it is a murder free paradise.

Oh, A veiled way of telling me to go back where I came from? too bad, I'm here so is all my family and there's not a fukin thing you can do about it but b1tch and whine and be a tough guy. Internet is a wonderful thing hu?

[-jose-]

You don't like firearms then don't ****ing buy one, plain and simple

If the US was split in 2 and all the responsible firearm owners were put on one side and the anti-gun liberals on the other side with all the gang bangers (that don't obey no mofoking laws and couldn't care less if guns were banned or not) with their illegal firearms where would you rather be?