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  • #11
    Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
    LOL are you outraged? Good.........

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BEDROOM BULLY View Post
      She turned down 2 years in prison didn't she or something like that?

      I hope your not stupid enough to be comparing this case to the Zimmerman one..

      Cause its an incredibly sucky comparison if so..
      Yep this kind of stuff happens all the time on social networks, it's stupid. People trying to "make a stand" and seem politically intelligent on Facebook when they probably don't even know 50% of the facts of this particular case. For example that comparison graphic in the other thread--



      It's crystal clear they have an agenda and it's so obviously biased.. anybody who believes in that drivel is a sheep.

      Basically a particular crowd is grasping at straws.

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      • #13
        But in the past week, Angela Corey, the state attorney (who also is prosecuting Zimmerman in the Martin case), has launched a media offensive to combat what she has called "misinformation" being spread by the family about the circumstances of the shooting.

        Shortly after the sentencing, Corey echoed comments she made to HuffPost earlier this week, saying that Alexander's own actions on the night of the incident and in the following months have landed her in the position that she is in.

        While Alexander's family has portrayed her as a victim at the end of her emotional rope and in fear of her life, Corey says Alexander fired in anger and not in fear. Corey disputes the so-called warning shot into the ceiling with photographs that show bullet holes much lower, going through a kitchen wall and into the living room where Corey said Gray and his boys were.
        "The fact that nobody got hurt has to be balanced with the fact that someone could have gotten hurt," Corey said. "The kids being right next to him changed everything."

        About four months after Alexander was released on bail, on orders to have no contact with Gray, she got into an altercation with him at his home that gave him a black eye, Corey said. Alexander was arrested and charged with battery, to which she pleaded no contest.

        Corey said that Alexander's actions -- engaging with a man of whom she claimed to be deathly afraid, and assaulting him -- "didn't show much of her being remorseful" or "being a peaceful person."

        "Everybody is still ignoring that she got out on bond and chose to go back over there and hit him a second time," Corey said. "That was kind of an indication of where putting her on probation, where you might have been able to do that before, was off the table since she disregarded a judges order."Alexander's family said the second incident took place just days before her newborn would have been dropped off of her insurance, and that she went over to Gray's home to have him sign paperwork that would have kept the baby insured. The family say that he attacked her that night and provided HuffPost with her medical records, which show that she suffered minor scrapes and bruising on her face, hand and arm.

        After the altercation, Alexander left Gray's house, and Gray called the police.

        On Friday Corey's office provided a police report, photographs and a 911 call that counter Alexander's claims.

        In the police report, Gray claimed that Alexander came over to drop off their daughter, and that when he rebuffed Alexander's request to spend the night, she "became enraged and began striking him on the face." Gray said he raised his hands, the report continues, and he yelled out to his sons to call the police. The responding officer wrote that Gray's children corroborated that account.
        When the police contacted her an hour or so later, according to the report, she said she didn't understand why they were contacting her and that she had an "alibi." The police noted swelling and a cut under Gray's left eye and no visible injuries on Alexander
        But on the way to the jail, Alexander said she felt light-headed and became unresponsive.

        An officer then "observed that there was a small cut under the suspect's eye that was not there prior to her being placed in my back seat."

        Alexander was rearrested that night and has remained in custody ever since.

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        • #14
          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1510113.html

          Just in case someone want to read the whole article with police reports

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          • #15
            Originally posted by oc9979 View Post
            But in the past week, Angela Corey, the state attorney (who also is prosecuting Zimmerman in the Martin case), has launched a media offensive to combat what she has called "misinformation" being spread by the family about the circumstances of the shooting.

            Shortly after the sentencing, Corey echoed comments she made to HuffPost earlier this week, saying that Alexander's own actions on the night of the incident and in the following months have landed her in the position that she is in.

            While Alexander's family has portrayed her as a victim at the end of her emotional rope and in fear of her life, Corey says Alexander fired in anger and not in fear. Corey disputes the so-called warning shot into the ceiling with photographs that show bullet holes much lower, going through a kitchen wall and into the living room where Corey said Gray and his boys were.
            "The fact that nobody got hurt has to be balanced with the fact that someone could have gotten hurt," Corey said. "The kids being right next to him changed everything."

            About four months after Alexander was released on bail, on orders to have no contact with Gray, she got into an altercation with him at his home that gave him a black eye, Corey said. Alexander was arrested and charged with battery, to which she pleaded no contest.

            Corey said that Alexander's actions -- engaging with a man of whom she claimed to be deathly afraid, and assaulting him -- "didn't show much of her being remorseful" or "being a peaceful person."

            "Everybody is still ignoring that she got out on bond and chose to go back over there and hit him a second time," Corey said. "That was kind of an indication of where putting her on probation, where you might have been able to do that before, was off the table since she disregarded a judges order."Alexander's family said the second incident took place just days before her newborn would have been dropped off of her insurance, and that she went over to Gray's home to have him sign paperwork that would have kept the baby insured. The family say that he attacked her that night and provided HuffPost with her medical records, which show that she suffered minor scrapes and bruising on her face, hand and arm.

            After the altercation, Alexander left Gray's house, and Gray called the police.

            On Friday Corey's office provided a police report, photographs and a 911 call that counter Alexander's claims.

            In the police report, Gray claimed that Alexander came over to drop off their daughter, and that when he rebuffed Alexander's request to spend the night, she "became enraged and began striking him on the face." Gray said he raised his hands, the report continues, and he yelled out to his sons to call the police. The responding officer wrote that Gray's children corroborated that account.
            When the police contacted her an hour or so later, according to the report, she said she didn't understand why they were contacting her and that she had an "alibi." The police noted swelling and a cut under Gray's left eye and no visible injuries on Alexander
            But on the way to the jail, Alexander said she felt light-headed and became unresponsive.

            An officer then "observed that there was a small cut under the suspect's eye that was not there prior to her being placed in my back seat."

            Alexander was rearrested that night and has remained in custody ever since.
            Sounds like she gave as good as she got and wasn't the weak abused girlfriend.

            Also she shot through the wall knowing the kids were with the guy in that room, that's insanely stupid and claimed it was self defence with a wall between them? LOL

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            • #16
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
              A shot at the city of SF? lol. Am I supposed to be offended. A city is a city, if you don't like it, who cares.
              Wow total comprehension fail. Here's the point: you talk terribly about the US, yet you choose to live in this "embarrassment of a nation." You are free to leave at any time.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Double_L View Post
                Wow total comprehension fail. Here's the point: you talk terribly about the US, yet you choose to live in this "embarrassment of a nation." You are free to leave at any time.
                Or total lack of clarity of the original response. I agree, the old "you complain, you are free to leave" certainly applies, fortunately being a combat veteran I also benefit greatly from neverending benefits from staying, so I think I will stay and speak the truth about this dump when I so please. I earned that right.

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                • #18
                  Give it a rest people...the case is closed. Move on!

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/14/why-d...d-your-ground/

                    She basically fired warning shots into a wall during a confrontation with her abusive husband. No one was injured or killed. But this wasn't considered self defense and she was sent to prison.

                    What the hell kind of justice system are they running down there?
                    She didn't stand her ground, she retreated, retrieved a gun and returned. While at his home. There's a whole host of reasons why her actions do not constitute self defense, and one that you may not have considered is that if you fire a warning shot you invalidate self defense claims. Guns are not permitted to be used in Florida to threaten or coerce, and firing a warning shot is only that. If you're not shooting to kill you're not defending yourself with a firearm.

                    Originally posted by Double_L View Post
                    Yep this kind of stuff happens all the time on social networks, it's stupid. People trying to "make a stand" and seem politically intelligent on Facebook when they probably don't even know 50% of the facts of this particular case. For example that comparison graphic in the other thread--



                    It's crystal clear they have an agenda and it's so obviously biased.. anybody who believes in that drivel is a sheep.

                    Basically a particular crowd is grasping at straws.
                    What's funny is that they're claiming that Zimmerman was on probation. He wasn't. He was on bail. Probation is a system of monitoring convicts to help prevent them from reoffending. If you haven't been convicted you can only be out on bail or recog.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Own3d View Post
                      Sounds like she gave as good as she got and wasn't the weak abused girlfriend.

                      Also she shot through the wall knowing the kids were with the guy in that room, that's insanely stupid and claimed it was self defence with a wall between them? LOL
                      And you get people trying to compare.. this to the ZM/TM trial..

                      Oh this poor woman got 20 years.. Zimmerman must get more he killed someone!

                      Oh and of course she is black.. that's why they are trying and failing to compare the two cases..

                      I am not suprised the media has been able to twist these stupid sheep into believing what they want. The guy didn't even read the full article... they are just taking tidbits from the media.. rather then reviewing the whole cases/looking at the full facts

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