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  • #71
    Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
    Don't make me laugh.

    It's no laughing matter sir. Blasphemy is a mortal sin. Words have effect that few truly understand so they curse freely without a care to the consequences.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
      Unfortunately embracing atheism does not give you a heightened sense of self-awareness but merely a heightened sense of self-love and self-centeredness. Atheism is a lie and will shortly be proven as so.

      If you're asking about self-awareness... The neurosurgeon who died and saw heaven encountered languages (angels singing in Latin) which is unknown to him yet he perfectly understands it. During the tour which his half-sister gave him, he was surprised that his sister can communicate with him telepathically. And that all throughout the tour he felt an overwhelming sense of being loved because one is in the presence of God. The neurosurgeon WAS an atheist before that.

      After the illumination of conscience, anyone who persists on foolishly following atheism knowing that God awaits us in heaven will spend an eternity of damnation.
      It would have been handy if god 'illuminated our consciousness' a few thousand years ago, instead of going through all the trouble of having his son nailed to a cross, and the bible being hand written over a few hundred years before it reached overseas. Gods can be so impractical. lol

      Plus it seems like a contradiction to for anyone to be an atheist whilst knowing god awaits us in heaven.


      Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
      He said that when he was younger he remembered about Jesus Christ but as he grew older and "smarter" he threw away those beliefs so that basically makes him an atheist.

      Also the so-called SMART here on earth, the neurosurgeon found out that intelligence on earth is LITERALLY NOTHING compared to the consciousness one has in heaven. Our senses in heaven are heightened A THOUSAND TIMES. Since information can be transferred telepathically and our minds in heaven are attuned 1000 times over, information transfer is INSTANTANEOUS.

      This made the doctor realize all his intelligence here on earth is literally nothing compared to what's in store for him in heaven. In short, in heaven, EVERYBODY IS AN EINSTEIN.

      This is also the reason why we must remain humble and grounded.

      You have so much faith in Dr Eben Alexander's experience. I dont understand why. It cannot be verified. Scientists may be unable to explain it, but he cannot be objective about it, as he was the one in the coma seeing things. There is much mystery surrounding how the brain works and consciousness, so i feel it is foolish to jump to the conclusion that any NDE is somehow proof of a heaven or hell.
      All these stories are only real to those who have experienced them. Otherwise we could blindly believe everyone who has a bizarre story to tell. In every culture supernatural tales vary greatly, and it seems more plausible to me they are a result of as yet to be explained brain activity and shaped by cultural beliefs.

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      • #73
        As for death. I think we grow up learning from each other all the time, and therefore we are shaped by people that have had a great influence on us. This influence carries on when we die, and we try and pass on the good, and learn from the mistakes.

        So in a way, we do carry on after death, but not in a supernatural, conscious way.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post
          It's no laughing matter sir. Blasphemy is a mortal sin. Words have effect that few truly understand so they curse freely without a care to the consequences.
          Why is someone as powerful as God so bothered about us believing in him?

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          • #75
            Nothing happens. That's the biggest fear, people want to keep "living".

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            • #76
              Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
              Why is someone as powerful as God so bothered about us believing in him?
              Man's purpose since our creation is to WORSHIP God. Our words have effect and power which few truly understands. Blaspheming God out of a misbegotten sense of humor is damning good sir.

              @Noose

              Just be patient sir, when the illumination of conscience happens, when you find yourself in front of God, please humble yourself, prostrate and ask for forgiveness. It will happen in our lifetime probably as close as a year from now, maybe much less.

              It is not a contradiction that most of the damned are those who didn't believe hell exists.

              It is not just faith on the neurosurgeon's experience since there are thousands and thousands of examples similar to his. The purpose of which is to wake up man to the reality that our soul is ETERNAL.

              To say that he is not objective about it when in fact he was formerly on the other side of the fence before it happened is just a saying that clueless individuals claim.

              He poses a simple argument that none of his colleagues could refute soundly.

              His brain simply couldn't make up such complex and ordered thoughts when at the time, his brain was "dead" and therefore couldn't function in any capacity.

              But ultimately it is a matter of faith. And since you are demanding proof, I suggest patience good sir since the illumination of conscience is very near.

              I hope when it happens you will use your freewill to go back to God.

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              • #77
                you cease to exist.

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                • #78
                  I dont wanna die!!

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                  • #79
                    [QUOTE=mokmokv2;12729258]

                    @Noose

                    Just be patient sir, when the illumination of conscience happens, when you find yourself in front of God, please humble yourself, prostrate and ask for forgiveness. It will happen in our lifetime probably as close as a year from now, maybe much less.
                    Typically vague. Quite pointless.
                    It is not a contradiction that most of the damned are those who didn't believe hell exists.
                    But it is a contradiction for someone to be an atheist when, as you put it, they KNOW god awaits us in heaven.

                    It is not just faith on the neurosurgeon's experience since there are thousands and thousands of examples similar to his. The purpose of which is to wake up man to the reality that our soul is ETERNAL
                    .

                    There are similarities, but not so similar that we could say they are describing the same place. Like i said, it seems NDE's are visions informed by culture and unknown brain activity.
                    Hindu NDE's.; http://near-death.com/hindu.html

                    To say that he is not objective about it when in fact he was formerly on the other side of the fence before it happened is just a saying that clueless individuals claim.
                    To remain non biased, objective and critical of an event is to not have an emotional attachment to it. He is very much emotionally attached to his personal experience. And because it happened to him without any possible way of verifying it was real, it is actually his story that is nothing more than a claim.

                    He poses a simple argument that none of his colleagues could refute soundly.

                    His brain simply couldn't make up such complex and ordered thoughts when at the time, his brain was "dead" and therefore couldn't function in any capacity.
                    When science had yet to explain lightening, was that proof of Thor?

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                    • #80
                      [QUOTE=The Noose;12729429]
                      Originally posted by mokmokv2 View Post


                      Typically vague. Quite pointless.

                      But it is a contradiction for someone to be an atheist when, as you put it, they KNOW god awaits us in heaven.

                      .

                      There are similarities, but not so similar that we could say they are describing the same place. Like i said, it seems NDE's are visions informed by culture and unknown brain activity.
                      Hindu NDE's.; http://near-death.com/hindu.html



                      To remain non biased, objective and critical of an event is to not have an emotional attachment to it. He is very much emotionally attached to his personal experience. And because it happened to him without any possible way of verifying it was real, it is actually his story that is nothing more than a claim.



                      When science had yet to explain lightening, was that proof of Thor?
                      To end the argument. It is a matter of faith. Human knowledge is very limited.

                      You are using your freewill to persist in disbelieving.

                      I am doing the opposite with my freewill.

                      So bottomline you are free to follow what path you choose.

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