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  • #61
    He really should've called himself -BLAKAVELLI-

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    • #62
      I hope larry wasn't IP-banned.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by brick wall View Post
        of course there's a creator...that should never be put in question in the first place.

        look around you...everything aside from natural things, people believe it was created/invented by somebody. electricity didn't just appear from nowhere, somebody created it. you're conveniently driving your own car to get to your desired destination because somebody invented it. you believe that without question.

        everything that is man-made and beneficial, we give credit to the inventor and we owe it to them whatever convenience we got right now because of their creations. we give them credit and rightfully so.

        what about the trees and the mountains, rivers...the clouds...the sun. how can you not believe that somebody created those things? is it because nobody on record can tell you that they witnessed it when it was being created like those man-made creations?

        this world we live in...this planet earth...why does it constantly revolve around the sun in a precise motion that engineering and science will never achieved. coincidence? that's foolishness.

        there's a supreme being/creator out there...somebody whose wisdom is beyond our understanding. when will you give him credit?
        Originally posted by The Noose View Post

        lmfaaoooooooo

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        • #64
          Originally posted by brick wall View Post
          of course there's a creator...that should never be put in question in the first place.
          By asking and ultimately answering that question we have dragged ourselves from the stagnation of primitive animism to the height of technology. You are posting on the internet using a computer that exists only because questions were asked and then answered.

          look around you...everything aside from natural things, people believe it was created/invented by somebody.
          So everything you see was created or invented by somebody except for the things that weren't? Very astute.

          electricity didn't just appear from nowhere, somebody created it.
          This guy?



          you're conveniently driving your own car to get to your desired destination because somebody invented it. you believe that without question.
          This is your argument? Because people believe that cars were invented the universe needs a creator? Wow.

          everything that is man-made and beneficial, we give credit to the inventor and we owe it to them whatever convenience we got right now because of their creations. we give them credit and rightfully so.

          what about the trees and the mountains, rivers...the clouds...the sun. how can you not believe that somebody created those things? is it because nobody on record can tell you that they witnessed it when it was being created like those man-made creations?
          Well the reason to not believe that "somebody" created mountains, rivers and trees, and I think the Sun you mentioned too, is that there is no evidence or reason to think that "somebody" did.

          this world we live in...this planet earth...why does it constantly revolve around the sun in a precise motion that engineering and science will never achieved. coincidence? that's foolishness.
          Engineering and science will never achieve an ellipse?

          there's a supreme being/creator out there...somebody whose wisdom is beyond our understanding. when will you give him credit?
          When he reveals his existence. How did you know it was a "he"?

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          • #65
            does any one else see ash ketchum, when they close their eyes and think of jesus?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
              It's much more far fetched than the notion that there was always "something" without a conscious creator. This is the whole creation fallacy: The insistence that EVERYTHING needs some sort of explanation as to beginnings... oh except for this all powerful creator monster who we can insist doesn't need to be explained.

              but isnt is kinda being a hypocrite when you claim the universe dosnt need a creator but expect some one to explain where a so called creator came from?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by -MAKAVELLIX- View Post
                and that is where science fails cause nothing cant make something
                What made God?

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                • #68
                  It's a case of infinities in the case of a creator, If y made x then who made y, and it goes on forever and cannot be renormalized. (Infinities taken out.)

                  That's the same reason we can't theorize the graviton very well (a fundamental particle that will transmit the gravitational force.) As you need a force to move that force particle, then after that you need a force for that.

                  If something cannot be renormalized then it's not an accepted theory. Although we are working on the graviton one.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ShaunRoberts View Post
                    What made God?
                    The religious response would be; God by definition is an eternal being.
                    Whereas we know the universe had a beginning.

                    Still polyfilla if u ask me.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
                      It's a case of infinities in the case of a creator, If y made x then who made y, and it goes on forever and cannot be renormalized. (Infinities taken out.)

                      That's the same reason we can't theorize the graviton very well (a fundamental particle that will transmit the gravitational force.) As you need a force to move that force particle, then after that you need a force for that.

                      If something cannot be renormalized then it's not an accepted theory. Although we are working on the graviton one.
                      We can theorize the graviton perfectly well, the problem is finding it.

                      It probably escapes to different dimensions, that would explain why it is so weak and why it is so difficult to detect.

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