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  • Originally posted by w/Attitude View Post
    you can take out groups of people with most guns.

    guns that are not as bulky. guns that have longer range.


    not needed.

    shotgun is an up close weapon.

    you don't need a special one with a bulky drum magazine when a regular shotgun can do the job just as well with less bulk.
    True a shotgun can but not as quick as this bad boy. There's a purpose for it, or the military wouldn't be funding it.

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    • Originally posted by w/Attitude View Post
      sig never makes stainless finish frames.

      it would look so nice all stainless. i guess they don't do it because they use aluminum frames but a few companies put stainless finish on their aluminum guns.

      i like all black or all stainless. OCD.

      the one gun i keep in my house is all stainless.

      smith tactical.

      Nice piece!!!

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      • Originally posted by jose830 View Post
        I'm from Jersey but I purchased the Sig in Puerto Rico
        my father is an instructor there so got a decent price.
        that's why.

        over here there so much additional taxes , registration , etc. bull****.

        my sig was only like $900+ back then. i think it was around $1400 in the end.

        same thing with my smith. it was less than a g but came to about $1400-1500.

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        • Originally posted by jose830 View Post
          Nice piece!!!
          i'm probably gonna get rid of it soon.

          i got this weird ocd thing when it comes to my legal guns.

          every handgun i got is the original gun for that caliber.

          example: my .45 acp is a colt government .45. my .357 sig is a sig p229. my .40 S&W is....well a smith and wesson and so on....

          all metal , all traditional and either all black or all stainless. no plastic frames , no striker fired pistols.


          i'm thinking of getting an hk. so if i do that i'll sell what i have and get all polymer guns.

          get a couple of hk's , the ruger plastic revolver and maybe a glock or smith m&p.

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          • Originally posted by w/Attitude View Post
            you can take out groups of people with most guns.

            guns that are not as bulky. guns that have longer range.


            not needed.

            shotgun is an up close weapon.

            you don't need a special one with a bulky drum magazine when a regular shotgun can do the job just as well with less bulk.
            However a mossberg cheap 12 ga pistol grip riot shotgun defies that when loaded with a buckshot. That weapon does it all.

            weighs nothing at all and has alot of feature.



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            • Originally posted by VERSATILE2K12 View Post
              True a shotgun can but not as quick as this bad boy. There's a purpose for it, or the military wouldn't be funding it.
              a regular semi-auto can shoot as fast as that. a pump not much slower with practice.

              military ain't buying that crap. maybe in small numbers for trials or something.

              that gun design is old. it's from the 60's or 70's when it was originally designed. every few years a new company buys the design and tries to sell it. rarely any takers.

              there's no need for a full auto shotgun. never was. never will be.

              my uncle had the 1980's version of it.

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              • Originally posted by RwK View Post
                However a mossberg cheap 12 ga pistol grip riot shotgun defies that when loaded with a buckshot. That weapon does it all.

                weighs nothing at all and has alot of feature.
                you can't arm soldiers with shotguns.

                unless they're just doing sentry duty.

                no need for an auto shotgun.

                if anything what they need is a compact pump shotgun that a guy can carry along with their m-16. for close quarters or to shoot doors open.

                you can sling a regular 6-shot mossberg and still carry your rifle.

                imagine having to carry that bulky ass thing and carry your rifle.

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                • Originally posted by RwK View Post
                  However a mossberg cheap 12 ga pistol grip riot shotgun defies that when loaded with a buckshot. That weapon does it all.

                  weighs nothing at all and has alot of feature.
                  My boy picked up amossberg last week
                  tomorrow we going to range to test it out.

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                  • Originally posted by jose830 View Post
                    My boy picked up amossberg last week
                    tomorrow we going to range to test it out.

                    Load with Buckshot and the fun begins LMAO.


                    Originally posted by w/Attitude View Post
                    you can't arm soldiers with shotguns.

                    unless they're just doing sentry duty.

                    no need for an auto shotgun.

                    if anything what they need is a compact pump shotgun that a guy can carry along with their m-16. for close quarters or to shoot doors open.

                    you can sling a regular 6-shot mossberg and still carry your rifle.

                    imagine having to carry that bulky ass thing and carry your rifle.
                    True.



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                    • Originally posted by jose830 View Post
                      My boy picked up amossberg last week
                      tomorrow we going to range to test it out.

                      he's gonna regret not getting one with a stock.

                      trust.

                      been there , done that.

                      when you first shoot it. it's fun as hell. no problem.

                      after a box or two of shells...... he'll notice his wrist and the web of his hand hurts.

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