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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostThe film was fraudulent and of zero intellectual merit. The producer engaged in all manner of trickery and lies and event went so far as to "expel" one of the participants of the film from the premier! If you doubt my evaluation of the film then how about the moviegoing public's? They avoided this stinker in their droves! This was despite heavy promotion.
Anyone using this fraudumentary as an example of anything apart from an illustration of the depths that liars for jesus are willing to sink needs their head examined.
Are you suggesting that Richard "Darwin's Rottweiler" Dawkins' explanation for the origin and distribution of life is panspermia? Are you honestly trying to say that based on one edited-out-of-context comment from a fraudulent documentary that his many many books on evolution don't count, including the ones he wrote after Ben Stein's dronefest?
All too easy.
It wasn't all chopped up...he said what he said...don't parse what isn't there.
Btw, "panspermia"? lolololol...get over yourself.
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Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Postits preternatural faith based belief. though once the science is understood the creator of life is no longer seen as a diety but of course we ourselfs become the dieties to some other life that we have created in out efforts to understand the creation of our own life.
which still leaves us with the question as squeal pointed out, where did the origional dieties come from? a mix of luck and chance?
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Originally posted by lefthook2daliva View PostWhy? Because you say so? Lol, I'll bet you want me to accept your opinion as fact for no other reason than that you have calculated it to be as you state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelle...owed#Reception
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/expe...igence-allowed
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/expe...gence_allowed/
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/2394
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/03/expelled.php
http://ncse.com/rncse/28/5-6/expelle...-at-box-office
Wow hey it isn't just my opinion, it's the opinion of the people who were in it, people who know about science, people who investigated the claims of this sordid little picture and THE ENTIRE MOVIEGOING PUBLIC!
It wasn't all chopped up...he said what he said...don't parse what isn't there.
Edited to shit.
Btw, "panspermia"? lolololol...get over yourself.
Reading books FTW
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Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Postso what is his opinion on the orgin of life? like before evolution.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostHis opinion is that evolution goes right back until the very first self replicating molecules. Where did they come from? Well we don't know but I suspect they form spontaneously. After all under the right conditions you get the formation of amino acids and even longer proteins occurring spontaneously. It only takes one long change protein to begin to replicating and you have the basis for evolution and the origin of life.
though as well im pretty sure they have replicated a virus by reconstructing the dna chain and putting it in cell juice.
do you think life evolved from viruses?
and what is your opinion on archaea and the role they play in the evolution of life?
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Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Postim pretty sure they have tried to replicate a living cell by reconstructing dna chains and failed.
though as well im pretty sure they have replicated a virus by reconstructing the dna chain and putting it in cell juice.
do you think life evolved from viruses?
and what is your opinion on archaea and the role they play in the evolution of life?
Archaea don't have anything to do with this hypothetical stage of life's development. Their basic building blocks are the same proteins that all other life has so both archaea and bacteria are going to have their origin in the same place - replicating proteins.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostI think it would be unlikely that the first replicating protein would be anything like as complex as DNA or even RNA. It doesn't have to be. It only has to replicate and make errors in the replication. Any errors that make it a more efficient replicator will remain and evolution is inevitable from that point on.
Archaea don't have anything to do with this hypothetical stage of life's development. Their basic building blocks are the same proteins that all other life has so both archaea and bacteria are going to have their origin in the same place - replicating proteins.
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