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  • #61
    Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
    I'd be quite content to agree with one, if any were to exist.
    They do, you just don't want to acknowledge that fact.




    "The refusal to believe in anything you can't see yourself is absurd." Richard Dawkins

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    • #62
      Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
      Morality means doing what is right, no matter what you are told. Religion means doing what you are told no matter what is right.
      Who determines what is right or wrong? Because Stalins or Hitlers morality of right and wrong is largely different than that of Islams prophet Muhammad or that of boxingscenes poster squealpiggy.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan View Post
        There is nothing 'logical' about faith. It is the belief in things unseen. One CAN have an intelligent debate on faith and God, but not a logical one.

        Of course it isn't to any staunch Atheist. No big surprise there.




        "The refusal to believe in anything you can't see yourself is absurd." Richard Dawkins
        Last edited by Lady Fan; 08-06-2011, 11:02 PM.

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        • #64
          "Lady Fan, Get back to teh kitchen, you'll never be a priest."


          - Richard Dawkins

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Enayze View Post
            Who determines what is right or wrong? Because Stalins or Hitlers morality of right and wrong is largely different than that of Islams prophet Muhammad or that of boxingscenes poster squealpiggy.
            Society determines what's right and wrong which is why it was considered right among the Inca to practise human sacrifice and why is was considered wrong by the Nazis to be Jewish. There is no such thing as an objective morality, but you can live by an ethical code of the golden rule" Treat other people like you would want to be treated. That's it.

            And before you attribute that to Jesus it predates him by centuries.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
              Society determines what's right and wrong which is why it was considered right among the Inca to practise human sacrifice and why is was considered wrong by the Nazis to be Jewish. There is no such thing as an objective morality, but you can live by an ethical code of the golden rule" Treat other people like you would want to be treated. That's it.

              And before you attribute that to Jesus it predates him by centuries.
              Not even centuries it goes back hundreds of millenia, the **** erectus had to be socially adapt in order to surive.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by RICHLOC View Post
                "Lady Fan, Get back to teh kitchen, you'll never be a priest."


                - Richard Dawkins

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by -Johannes- View Post
                  Not even centuries it goes back hundreds of millenia, the **** erectus had to be socially adapt in order to surive.
                  The Golden Rule was put into writing centuries before Jesus put on his first pair of sandals. Reciprocity of course had been around for a long time prior to that.

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                  • #69
                    From poster GranTorino, this needs a lot more views.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Cupocity303 View Post
                      From poster GranTorino, this needs a lot more views.

                      Wow, you must feel totally empowered now by showing this vid Cupocity. Do you feel better about yourself? The funny thing is when disbelieving people are faced with a life changing event such as an impending death whether for them or a loved one, they don't pray to the famous "Flying Spaghetti Monster" for help and guidance. JAT



                      "The refusal to believe in anything you can't see yourself is absurd." Richard Dawkins

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