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  • #71
    Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
    You're missing a key word here: "Yet". Look at the capabilities that we have developed in a few short years. 200 years ago we had no means of power apart from muscle or wind, now flying across vast oceans is commonplace. Fifty years ago the cheapest method of sending information to another country was to write it down and physically send it. Now I can communicate with someone on the other side of the planet in an instant, and it's free! Thirty years ago the first one-gig computer storage device was released by IBM, it was the size of a refrigerator and cost $40,000. Now I can buy a hard disk drive the size of a paperback novel with a thousand times the capacity for under a hundred bucks. Twenty years ago the only means of getting into space was using the resources of the two most powerful nations on earth. Now it's a matter for private enterprise. Ten years ago a probe on Mars was science fiction. Now we've sent robots on exploratory missions...

    Science and technology are moving at an exponential rate of acceleration. Will we ever examine flora and fauna on the other side of the universe? Carl Sagan can help:
    So you think that by the time humans no longer exist we would have had the ability to travel around the universe? How about write a field report from inside a black hole? or teleport through the edge of space to enjoy a quiet refreshment away from all the hustle and bustle so often attributed with the cosmos.

    It isn't gonna happen and there are always gonna be things beyond what we can achieve..................
    Last edited by Mushroom; 07-16-2010, 09:05 AM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
      So you're calling a large part of the worlds population, fools?
      actually, i think the majority is ******ed, wasn't there some statistics on this?

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      • #73
        Originally posted by .-|Akrobatic|-. View Post
        actually, i think the majority is ******ed, wasn't there some statistics on this?
        Yes I made a thread on this. Let me bump it.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Bubba Chunday View Post
          There are reasons why people believe in supernatural tales of miracles and magic. And its not simply because people of faith are deluded fools.

          Some might be, but that doesnt explain why billions of people believe in God and are religious.

          To go on the attack and ignorantly label them as fools makes u the bigger fool.



          Because u dont know doesnt give a reason to believe in God.

          Belief in God shouldnt be based on lack of knowledge.

          There are many reasons to believe in God, but origins of the physical universe isnt one of them IMO.
          You can be the one suck-holeing at the purley gates

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          • #75
            lol your sad man.



            answer this.

            #1. How did EVERYTHING in this whole galaxy world type EVERYTHING become to be? There is obv a bigger power above us.


            How else would everything here be here?
            This is a poor argument. It amounts to "I can't understand it personally therefore goddidit". Here's a better one: What if nonexistence is fractionally less stable than existence? If that is the case then over an infinite period of time it becomes a certainty that things will exist as opposed to not existing.

            Bingo: Existence is explained without the need to invent a magical wishing-fairy who lives in the sky.

            So you think that by the time humans no longer exist we will have the ability to travel around the universe? How about write a field report from inside a black hole? or teleport through the edge of space to enjoy a quiet refreshment away from all the hustle and bustle so often attributed with the cosmos.

            It isn't gonna happen
            There are of course many things we might not be able to do. Being able to drink boiling acid and survive for example, or go skinny dipping in vacuum... But there's no reason why an inability to do a report from "inside" a black hole (black holes are infinitely small superdense specks of matter exerting strong enough gravity that within a certain threshold even light cannot escape - not entirely sure how you could do a report from inside one) should in any was limit our understanding.

            Science is a journey towards understanding. Declaring the journey over and all further knowledge unobtainable (and therefore attributable to whatever god happened to oversee the religion of your childhood) is the antithesis of science.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
              There are of course many things we might not be able to do. Being able to drink boiling acid and survive for example, or go skinny dipping in vacuum... But there's no reason why an inability to do a report from "inside" a black hole (black holes are infinitely small superdense specks of matter exerting strong enough gravity that within a certain threshold even light cannot escape - not entirely sure how you could do a report from inside one) should in any was limit our understanding.

              Science is a journey towards understanding. Declaring the journey over and all further knowledge unobtainable (and therefore attributable to whatever god happened to oversee the religion of your childhood) is the antithesis of science.
              The fact that we can't venture into one was the point I was trying to make. We a restricted by our physical form. For example if life on another planet was to go by a different set of building blocks from that of our own planet then it is possible that they would be beyond our senses to comprehend. We wouldn't be a position to use science.........
              Last edited by Mushroom; 07-16-2010, 09:27 AM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Mushroom View Post
                The fact that we can't venture into one was the point I was trying to make. We a restricted by our physical form. For example if life on another planet was to go by a different set of building blocks from that of our own planet then it is possible that they would be beyond our senses to comprehend.
                No we aren't. We're not restricted by our physical form when it comes to gaining understanding. We overcome our physical limitations with technology. We can't, for example, see any planets outside our solar system directly. But we do know they are there because we observe their effect on their suns.

                Here's a more concrete example: We can't travel to Mars at this stage. It is logistically not possible. But we can increase our understanding with the use of unmanned robotic probes, and so we have.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                  No we aren't. We're not restricted by our physical form when it comes to gaining understanding. We overcome our physical limitations with technology. We can't, for example, see any planets outside our solar system directly. But we do know they are there because we observe their effect on their suns.

                  Here's a more concrete example: We can't travel to Mars at this stage. It is logistically not possible. But we can increase our understanding with the use of unmanned robotic probes, and so we have.
                  lol your missing my point. Technology comes from our theories and is designed and built by us. It is essentially a extension of us and is restricted by our imagination, creativity and intelligence.
                  Last edited by Mushroom; 07-16-2010, 10:04 AM.

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                  • #79
                    There are reasons why people believe in supernatural tales of miracles and magic. And its not simply because people of faith are deluded fools.

                    Some might be, but that doesnt explain why billions of people believe in God and are religious.
                    Actually it does. It's the shock & awe God phenomenon. The first **** sapiens on this earth were predisposed to believe in the supernatural due to the things they couldn't explain around them. Some thought that volcano's were the wrath of a deity. Some worshiped the sun etc,. etc,.

                    Today's religions are simply a continuation of that.

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                    • #80
                      It's gonna come down to who will capture more souls..At the end of the day, Good will beat evil.

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