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  • #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Sadly, like a lot of the uneducated and uninformed, this doesn’t mean what you think it does. There would need to be a declaration of war.

    So then lets pass a bi partisan bill to address the problem of illegals in the country. Then lets hold Congress accountable by voting out anyone that doesn’t agree to disincentivize illegals from coming here for work by making it a federal crime to hire illegals to work.
    Biden has the power to do what I said. He chooses not to. He had both houses of congress for 2 years.

    Congress passing a bill for Biden requires both the house and the senate to act, when Biden needs neither to shut down the boarder.

    It's his shame, and he shall wear it. Unless of corse he issues Executive orders to shut the border down or at least keep the Trump polices he canceled via executive order.

    You really are a low IQ person and one who is not very informed.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

      Biden has the power to do what I said. He chooses not to. He had both houses of congress for 2 years.

      Congress passing a bill for Biden requires both the house and the senate to act, when Biden needs neither to shut down the boarder.

      It's his shame, and he shall wear it. Unless of corse he issues Executive orders to shut the border down or at least keep the Trump polices he canceled via executive order.

      You really are a low IQ person and one who is not very informed.
      Your executive order idea never stopped illegals from coming in when Trump signed them.

      Yes we know the past. Let’s talk about current situation and the future.

      Not one President had ever completely shut down the border. Stop dishonestly implying Trump did.

      The Bill would’ve helped. That is why it was supported by many on the right. Of course Trump thinks he can win on the issue so he is fine blocking it.

      Ahh- now we see your true intentions. You don’t give a **** about border security or illegals. You want Biden to ‘wear it’ and put back Trump’s orders because you think it will help him win.

      Pathetic but not surprising that you put Trump ahead of country.

      Whatever opinion you have of what I am, you are many levels below me. I have shown I am far more informed than you.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-26-2024, 11:07 AM.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        Your executive order idea never stopped illegals from coming in when Trump signed them.

        Yes we know the past. Let’s talk about current situation and the future.

        Not one President had ever completely shut down the border. Stop dishonestly implying Trump did.

        The Bill would’ve helped. That is why it was supported by many on the right. Of course Trump thinks he can win on the issue so he is fine blocking it.

        Ahh- now we see your true intentions. You don’t give a **** about border security or illegals. You want Biden to ‘wear it’ and put back Trump’s orders because you think it will help him win.

        Pathetic but not surprising that you put Trump ahead of country.

        Whatever opinion you have of what I am, you are many levels below me. I have shown I am far more informed than you.
        No one has ever said the border was totally shut down, that's a couple of threads you've tried to spread that lie, If the border bill was so great why did these democrat senators vote it down.........Does Trump control these senators or do they have other motives, and do those motives put politics over country....

        Senator Chuck Schumer - D​, Senator Elizabeth Warren - D​, Senator Bernie Sanders - I​, Senator Alex Padilla - D​, Senator Bob Menendez - D​, Senator Ed Markey - D
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        • #44
          Originally posted by Stebs View Post

          No one has ever said the border was totally shut down, that's a couple of threads you've tried to spread that lie, If the border bill was so great why did these democrat senators vote it down.........Does Trump control these senators or do they have other motives, and do those motives put politics over country....

          Senator Chuck Schumer - D​, Senator Elizabeth Warren - D​, Senator Bernie Sanders - I​, Senator Alex Padilla - D​, Senator Bob Menendez - D​, Senator Ed Markey - D
          Dr. Z implied it multiple times. You’re jumping in late playing Capt. Sav a Racist as usual. You miss much of the discussion when you do that.

          They made their choice. I disagree with their vote here.

          No Trump does not. I don’t know why each decided to vote against. Do you know why?

          Trump said specifically he thinks he can win on this issue so don’t do anything that might help Dems get a ‘win’.

          Same stupid unpatriotic selfish stance he took with the infrastructure bill which had he worked with Dems to pass hed likely have been reelected.

          How many more times is he going to put himself ahead of country before you wake up?

          Now list the Republicans that negotiated the bill, supported it and then changed after Trump pulled his behind the scenes garbage.

          You seem to think pointing this out makes what I said about Trump blocking it not true.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-26-2024, 02:04 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Stebs View Post

            No one has ever said the border was totally shut down, that's a couple of threads you've tried to spread that lie, If the border bill was so great why did these democrat senators vote it down.........Does Trump control these senators or do they have other motives, and do those motives put politics over country....

            Senator Chuck Schumer - D​, Senator Elizabeth Warren - D​, Senator Bernie Sanders - I​, Senator Alex Padilla - D​, Senator Bob Menendez - D​, Senator Ed Markey - D
            What are you even talking about? Schumer was one of the people who helped put together the bipartisan border bill. You guys never know what the fvvck you are talking about.


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            • #46
              Originally posted by travestyny View Post

              What are you even talking about? Schumer was one of the people who helped put together the bipartisan border bill. You guys never know what the fvvck you are talking about.


              Shut up and mind your own business, one of dunces little minions spouting off and knows nothing.....

              Here is the full list of the five Democrats who joined Republicans in voting "no."
              1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
              2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
              3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
              4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
              5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
              6 Senator Bernie Sanders, calls himself independent, just another socialist democrat content on destroying the U.S.A.
              Last edited by Stebs; 03-26-2024, 06:24 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Stebs View Post

                Shut up and mind your own business, one of dunces little minions spouting off and knows nothing.....

                Here is the full list of the five Democrats who joined Republicans in voting "no."
                1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
                2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
                3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
                4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
                5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
                Voting no to what, dumbass?

                Do some ****ing research. All you do is spew the dumb shlt you heard from somewhere that you obviously don't understand.

                In the first vote, several senators crossed party lines with Republican Sens. James Lankford, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins and Mitt Romney agreeing to move forward with the bill while the rest of Republicans voted against it. Democratic Sens. Bob Menendez, Elizabeth Warren, Ed Markey, Alex Padilla and Bernie Sanders, an independent, voted against moving forward. The rest of the Democrats voted in favor of moving forward.

                Schumer switched his vote to a no at the end -- a procedural move that allowed him the opportunity to call the bill back up for reconsideration at a later date if he so chooses.

                https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bord...y?id=107023984
                Last edited by travestyny; 03-26-2024, 06:34 PM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                  Voting no to what, dumbass?
                  I would say don't play stupid, but then look at who is commenting, learn to read and follow along instead of just throwing out dumb ass comments, damn your slow.....I know you like to come to dunces defense but he doesn't need a lame ass like yourself trying to defend him......What's he have, about 4 or 5 of you clowns following him.. the leftovers

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Stebs View Post

                    I would say don't play stupid, but then look at who is commenting, learn to read and follow along instead of just throwing out dumb ass comments, damn your slow.....I know you like to come to dunces defense but he doesn't need a lame ass like yourself trying to defend him......What's he have, about 4 or 5 of you clowns following him.. the leftovers
                    Damn, you're slow.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



                      He can’t deploy the military. This has been explained already. Please stop regurgitating incorrect information you get from right wing social media.

                      Instead of an executive order, he went a step further and agree to sign the bill from Sen. Lankford.

                      You don't have a clue. The woke virus must have infected your small mind.

                      Please explain to me WHY Biden lacks the power to deploy the national guard or the military?

                      The Laken act does not address many concerns at the border.

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