Russia launches invasion of Ukraine - MASTER THREAD

[GrandpaBernard]

Watched that one myself and his ideas are actually very much along the same lines as various themes I've introduced to this thread over the course of the last two years. The goal of the US is to maintain global dominance in perpetuity in both the military and economic spheres and it's stated straight out over various iterations of the US National Security Strategy that they intend to prevent any nation or alliance ever being able to rival or threaten them. In this context Russia will always be a problem. Militarily it's size and distance from the world's oceans (where the US reigns supreme) make it prohibitive to assail conventionally, and it's nukes obviously make it an unacceptable threat to US freedom of action.

just as importantly though it's vast material resources create the potential for the growth of a Eurasian power block either with Europe or China which could if unchecked rival or exceed the economic and political power of the US and this too was seen as unacceptable by the Yank elites. In particular I think the growing cooperation between Germany and Russia in the noughties was viewed with great alarm in Washington.

So if you were a decision maker in the US policy elite and wished to make sure you prevented Europe from becoming too independent - even maybe a genuine economic rival - and particularly from cosying up to Russia, and you simultaneously wanted to isolate and weaken Russia, just how would you go about it?

DC miscalculated by pushing the Russian Empire away from Gheyrope towards China.

Russia has strengthened its ties with the rising force and severed its bond with a decaying Gheyrope. Better to have a strong frenemy than a weak partner

without America “the West” would be nothing

Gheyrope’s ruling leeches have over regulated the continent into decline

Today’s leaders in tech are either from the East or American

Gheyrope makes the most car but falls behind when it comes to EVs

the EU is leading in being crypto unfriendly and cucking its own future in finance

I’d much rather be Asian, American, or Russian than European if push came to shove

America is now left holding the bag known as weak azz Europe. It’d be my last bet of these 4 regions

[GrandpaBernard]

Citizen Koba is this the first US NAVY SEAL who got killed in UA

fighting another empire is different from fighting broke muslims

[GrandpaBernard]

Insightful anecdote. The Russian Empire now has real war experience

As a former French Foreign legionnaire who was in Mali during Operation Barkhane, I remember encountering Wagner Group in a village near Tessalit and even though both sides knew the other was there and it was ok, there was still a bit of tension. One of our guy, a Lithuanian, started an argument with one of Wagner after he apparently said something insulting in russian. I remember how we all looked at each others and instantly understood " let's chill, there's no need to excalate a situation we wouldn't be able to handle ", because let's face it, no matter how much training you have, when your only experience is fighting some dude in ragtags with a rusty AK, you don't feel confident taking on a similar force.

[GrandpaBernard]

Batko10Vlad_ Citizen Koba Madison boxing BattlingNelson

The modern Russian Empire is pretty beast. It’s winning against the West on 3 different fronts simultaneously: natoKraine, Syria, and Africa.

And due to UA it’s the only world power with experience in a modern high intensity war

People jerk off over China’s manufacturing output on a wartime footing. But the Chinese military hasn’t been tested to this degree. And the Chinese have historically been so and so at war

[BattlingNelson]

good propaganda to discourage terrorists for hire

electrocuted genitals scares all

What did they do to the terrorists who killed 400+ civilians at Bucha?

[Batko10]

[Batko10]

[BattlingNelson]

good propaganda to discourage terrorists for hire

electrocuted genitals scares all

Them using torture on suspects just shows you how superior we are in the west. Russia is a barbaric medieval dictatorship.

[BattlingNelson]

BattlingNelson maybe it was isis. The Russian Empire is active in Syria and made enemies out of isis

for what it’s worth the terrorists in Moscow don’t look like Arabs
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IS has made several bloody terror attacks in Russia. It’s not surprising to anyone but Putin, that they did it again.

[Kris Silver]

Them using torture on suspects just shows you how superior we are in the west. Russia is a barbaric medieval dictatorship.

Cue those about to jump in saying, well the US have done torture, waterboarding, look at Guantanamo.

Well yes somewhat valid points, but not the Trump card they think. There's a real issue of proportionality and scales with some, especially alt fact conspiracy minds. An example of something within a humongous system and thing, isn't on its own evidence it's then the same as X or Y.

They'll be examples of poor treatment in some places, or by a minority. But openly torturing, cutting off body parts in the streets immediately upon finding them, on a mass scale, is pretty darn systematically different.