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  • Shout out to Falcao missing that penalty against Athletico.

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    • Eriksen

      please dont leave us

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      • What do Spurs need to qualify?

        I want them to drop into the s.hite cup so we can beat them in it

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        • Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
          What do Spurs need to qualify?

          I want them to drop into the s.hite cup so we can beat them in it
          If Milan beat PSV, we need to beat barca at the camp nou to go through on GD

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          • Originally posted by mlac View Post
            If Milan beat PSV, we need to beat barca at the camp nou to go through on GD
            Seems a tall order but I suppose Barca will blood some youngsters.

            Did anyone see Barfa are gonna rename their ground for £400 million?

            Watch, they’ll do this a few times.

            Just as they look like they’re slipping slightly. The Spanish teams are 100% bogus.

            They know signings like Malcolm ain’t gonna cut it.

            They’ll pick up Salah and Eriksen and Hazard in the summer probably. Maybe Icardi too.

            And they’ll get Pep back.

            Then they’ll sell a door knob to a private investor for a £200 mill just in case.
            Last edited by Sparked_26; 11-28-2018, 06:31 PM.

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            • Originally posted by mlac View Post
              Eriksen

              please dont leave us
              Just setting yourselves up for heartbreak. Barca 5-0 incoming

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              • Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
                I haven't learnt anything about Jorginho from watching him 7-8 times for Chelsea that I didn't already know from watching him in the same system at Napoli about 40 times.

                He's still the perfect player to play at the base of the midfield for us in recycling possession and breaking the lines.

                2 games ago you and sparked were calling him a metronome/premium signing, give it another few weeks and maybe you'll be back to that line of thinking. It pains me to see how reactionary you lot are.

                Sarri's way of playing is complex and it will take more than 3 months of a season for the squad to get used to that, I think there were quotes coming from Sarri along those lines at the beginning of the season. The good start Chelsea made has blinded people into thinking that that's their level. It isn't yet. Expect Sarri to have the same teething problems Pep had in the first season here because of the radical changes in philosophy from Conte's methods.

                ...and Jorginho with his attributes is the key to that entire philosophy, Sarri knows that. Anyone suggesting Kante should be put back into that position at the base just doesn't get it at all unfortunately.
                The age old question is what Jorginho is coming up on though.

                Can he play in England?

                We know his style of play, we know what he is good at, we know he is integral to Sarri's football philosophy.

                However, if you can get marked out of the game and cant recover because the speed of the league. Then your abilities really dont matter. You are just a luxury at that point.

                Even Ozil came up on the questions of if he can play on England. He came to answer those questions very well but never the less even a world class #10 nearlt failed in England if not for him adapting his game.

                Jorgi is coming up on the time to answer those questions. The big issue with it is that he wont be afforded 1 year to do so like Ozil. He will have to answer immediately because once Sarri gets sacked. He is going to have to show that he can be more versatile than a recycler of possession in a niche system.

                With Pep, im certain he could get away with it because Pep will do things to cover his liabilities but say Mancini... Jorgi, in my opinion would have been up schit's creek at City if he cant adapt his game.
                Last edited by F l i c k e r; 11-29-2018, 11:36 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
                  Wouldn’t be a problem if he was 30 yards further back.

                  To be fair Sarri is to live or die by that particular decision so I’m not going to criticise him for it too much even if to me and most people on earth who like football it seems wrong - he’s going balls out. And most Chelsea manager in the end just retreat into themselves.

                  Kante is not 300k a week box to box midfielder though so the decision in the end has to be whether to start Kante.

                  I dunno we’ll see. Chelsea were horrific against Spurs whereas they’ve looked good for a while.

                  Spurs probably won’t win for a month now anyway now they’ve shot their load.
                  That's what I said. Chelsea most likely threw money at him to keep PSG away.

                  For specifically the role in Sarri's system. I wonder if Rabiot would possibly be better than Kante. Because we may as well let PSG have him if Chelsea are going to go all-in on Sarri's idealism.

                  We'll see how the team recovers though. It was a disaster against Spurs but minor shifts could alleviate many issues.

                  Dropping Willian and Luiz for a start would probably do us justice. Those two are fair weather af.

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                  • I hate to post 3x back to back but....

                    Liverpool, what the absolute fuhk? They are about to be Chelsea's biggest threat in Europa.

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                    • Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
                      That's what I said. Chelsea most likely threw money at him to keep PSG away.

                      For specifically the role in Sarri's system. I wonder if Rabiot would possibly be better than Kante. Because we may as well let PSG have him if Chelsea are going to go all-in on Sarri's idealism.

                      We'll see how the team recovers though. It was a disaster against Spurs but minor shifts could alleviate many issues.

                      Dropping Willian and Luiz for a start would probably do us justice. Those two are fair weather af.
                      You were **** on. A box to box man who will score 3 goals a year?

                      I can see why Luiz plays out of what we have but Willian has been doing my head in for about 18 months now. He’s a nice enough player but he hasn’t actually got a good work rate which he is inexplicably credited for and he just doesn’t do enough in the final third, never has and never will. Hindsight is 20:20 but Willian has seen off KDB and Salah tbh, lol.

                      He gives Azpi zero protection.

                      Willian only really comes to the fore when Chelsea are terrible. He’ll have a great spell around January and February like always and that will keep him at the club. He’s also great in broken play. The Sarri/Pep/Possession based style is based on the play never being broken.

                      Really I would have sold Willian in the summer and went for someone a bit more mercurial. Willian does not protect the full back. That’s a massive misnomer. He doesn’t work that hard. I would have had a punt on Wilf - 100%.

                      You notice these guys when you see games live more than anything. On the tele it is different because the camera follows the ball. So Willian will lose a ball and press hard to get it back. What he won’t do is track a runner every time.

                      Willian and Alexis Sanchez have red light work rate. It’s not proper. How did Sanchez get
                      On under Pep?

                      So really you can replace hi. I’d replace him with Pedro now. That’s a massive head scratcher for me more than even the Kante position.

                      Maybe Fenomeno can tell us but I’m sure the Napoli right winger the little
                      Spaniard Callejon? Whose whole job was to make out to in runs and try and get in behind. Pedro’s whole game really. Pedro is probably slightly passed his best but surely that is Sarri’s Guy? Not an elite Futsal player.

                      Willian should have been sold a few years ago. Maybe as many as 3 seasons ago.
                      Last edited by Sparked_26; 11-29-2018, 12:19 PM.

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