How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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It says, the books making up the New Testament were 'officially' named in 397AD...thats almost 4 hundred years after Jesus's death.
So all that time people all over the world were dying without knowing Jesus or being 'saved'. Did they go to hell? He had no influence over their lives.
Surely God could have simply contacted everyone instantly without the need for men to compile a handwritten book?
Makes no sense to me.

The Gospel was being preached during this time. The Books were used, but not officially recognized by the Council yet.

Yje criteria also is strange. The books would only be accepted if they had been used continuously by the church. But what if the church ignored books that were true all that time?

Not all churches had copies of every book, but the true gospel was being preached. Much was relayed verbally. They didn't ignore the true books because they were written by the eyewitnesses. Why would they ignore Paul's writings or the apostle's writings? There would be no reason.


And the books had to "cohere and agree with accepted and undisputed scripture". But what kind of reasoning is that? What if the books that were rejected didnt agree with 'accepted' scripture because accepted scripture was wrong? And 'undisputed'? It seems they already had their minds made up about what happened. And the books had to fit in to that. Doesnt seem objective at all.

The accepted books were written directly by eyewitnesses to walked with Jesus, His disciples, Paul who was recognized by the disciples of Jesus. Makes sense.


Plus, the books had to be 'self evident' that they were inspired by God, based on how they changed peoples lives. But people are inspired by many other Holy and non-holy books all over the world. So again, it doesnt seem the criteria makes much sense.

If you have ever placed your faith in Jesus Christ and trusted in His word, you would certainly understand this. It changed MY life. I can also see when it changes others.

And a guy named Eusebuis decided that certain books were frauds. But because they didnt match the criteria.
Strange how God would let men make all these vital decisions.

The video got super boring after that.

If you search the net there is a big dispute amoung Biblical scholars as to whether the gospels were written by who they were named after.

Liberal scholars, who don't really believe the Bible is God's word, will deny deny deny no matter what evidence they are presented with. Conservatives who actually believe it will go by the actual evidence. Sorry but that is the truth.

My responses are in bold above.

[The Noose]

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The Gospel was being preached during this time. The Books were used, but not officially recognized by the Council yet.

Preached in a very small area. Not around the world.
It took the bible 800 years just to reach Britain. The copies all had to be hand written.
Why did God chose such a slow unreliable method for communicating his word?

The accepted books were written directly by eyewitnesses to walked with Jesus, His disciples, Paul who was recognized by the disciples of Jesus. Makes sense.

I dont see how that addresses my comment.
Books were chosen to be included in the bible had to fit into an already prescribed belief, but arent the books meant to be Gods word? So shouldnt the books inform us about what happened? As oppose to disregarding stories that dont adhere to beliefs.

If you have ever placed your faith in Jesus Christ and trusted in His word, you would certainly understand this. It changed MY life. I can also see when it changes others.

Many books change peoples lives.
Harry Potter and the Wailing Minge, for example.

Liberal scholars, who don't really believe the Bible is God's word, will deny deny deny no matter what evidence they are presented with. Conservatives who actually believe it will go by the actual evidence. Sorry but that is the truth.

You're describing confirmation bias on both sides.
If its about the evidence, then why should belief be so important?
If you already believe something then it will be harder to be objective.

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God committed the gospel unto His followers to share with the world beginning with the Disciples and Paul. Paul actually shared it with the world. I can't answer for God as to why He does what He does. All I can say is that the foolish things of God are wiser than the wisdom of men.


Remember that the Old Testiment was complete long before the New Testiment. If you want to understand how the Bible was compiled you need to watch that video. I can't tell you exactly why or how things were done as they were, but I can say that it is God's word and somehow He uses it to further His purposes. If God has ever revealed Himself to you, then you would understand what I am talking about.

[king4oranges]

Can you show me one example from the bible where it literally says Jesus is the son of god?

[The Noose]

God committed the gospel unto His followers to share with the world beginning with the Disciples and Paul. Paul actually shared it with the world. I can't answer for God as to why He does what He does. All I can say is that the foolish things of God are wiser than the wisdom of men.


Remember that the Old Testiment was complete long before the New Testiment. If you want to understand how the Bible was compiled you need to watch that video. I can't tell you exactly why or how things were done as they were, but I can say that it is God's word and somehow He uses it to further His purposes. If God has ever revealed Himself to you, then you would understand what I am talking about.

He hasnt.
Im pretty sure id know if he had.
But then again, it seems God interacts with us in such a way that we cant even tell if its him. Its apparently all a matter of faith. AKA in your head.

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Can you show me one example from the bible where it literally says Jesus is the son of god?

John 20:31 says it.

But what a bizarre concept.

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Jesus Christ IS God

There are some religions out there that believe and teach that Jesus Christ is not God. Some teach that He is a god, but not thee God. I am going to demonstrate through the word of God that He is God and created all things.

Jesus’s name “Immanuel” LITERALLY means “God with us”

Mt 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."

Isa 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

He always existed (from everlasting):

Mic 5:2 (NKJV) "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, [Though] you are little among the thousands of Judah, [Yet] out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth [are] from of old, From everlasting."

This prophecy is of Christ's first comming. His Goings forth have been from everlasting because Christ Jesus is God.

Jesus Christ is one with the Father. He is God.

Joh 14:8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one God:

1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

Jesus declares Himself to be the great I AM of the Old Testiment. I AM is God's Name

Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

I am IS God. There is only one God. That God has three parts.

Ex 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

His Disciple/Apostle Peter Admits that Jesus knows “All things” (Only God knows all things)

Joh 21:17 He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, "Do you love Me?" And he said to Him, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You." Jesus said to him, "Feed My sheep.

In Him Dwells all of the fullness of the Godhead Bodily:

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. {rudiments: or, elements} {make a prey: or, seduce you, or, lead you astray} For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: {his...: Gr. the Son of his love}
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. {in...: or, among all} 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;


God's plurality is found in Genesis

Ge 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

His Disciple/Apostle Thomas Confessed Him to be God and Jesus did NOT rebuke Him for it:

Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

This verse demonstrates how God has multiple aspects. He said Let “US” make man in “OUR” image. He didn’t say, let me make man in My image, He said let US make man is OUR image.

His Apostle/Disciple John declares Christ Jesus to be God:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

His Apostle/Disciple John declares that the world was made by Him (Jesus Christ)

Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

All things were made by Him and He was in the beginning with God (Father)

Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

There are MANY places where He is worshipped and Jesus NEVER tells them not to worship Him, NOT once. Only God is to be worshipped, because Jesus IS God, Jesus IS worshipped:

Mt 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. {presented: or, offered}
Mt 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Mt 9:18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
Mt 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Mt 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mt 18:26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. {worshipped him: or, besought him}
Mt 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
Mt 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Mr 5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
Mr 15:19 And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him.
Lu 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Ac 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Re 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Scripture refers to Him as the Lord, Jesus Christ. The phrase "The Lord" is unique only to God:

Here are a few mentioning "The Lord Your God"

De 5:6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. {bondage: Heb. servants}

De 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

De 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

De 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.


Here are many calling Him Jesus Christ, The Lord.

Ac 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Ac 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Ac 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Ac 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Ro 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ro 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Ro 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

1Co 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

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1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

2Co 1:2 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. <>

Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Eph 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Php 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: {conversation...: or, we live or conduct ourselves as citizens of heaven, or, for obtaining heaven}

Col 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Th 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Conclusion: Jesus Christ is God. Not a God but the God of the bible. God has three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All are equal, yet the Son is submissive to the Father and the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son. Jesus Christ was an EXAMPLE for us. He died on the cross for our sins so that we could go to heaven and be forgiven of our sins. He shed His blood for us.

[The Noose]

Conclusion: Jesus Christ is God. Not a God but the God of the bible. God has three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All are equal, yet the Son is submissive to the Father and the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son. Jesus Christ was an EXAMPLE for us. He died on the cross for our sins so that we could go to heaven and be forgiven of our sins. He shed His blood for us.

lol. I skipped right to the end at this is the first thing i saw! lmao.
So the bible backs up the bible then? Wonderful.
Book 1 of the Harry Potter series proves that book 2, 3, 4, 5, etc are true.

[xfrodobagginsx]

Yes, remember that the Bible wasn't written through just one person. It was written by 40 men over 1600 years in different parts of the world, from different walks of life, some rich, some poor yet many of which did not have access to the other's writings, yet fits together as if written by one person because as the word says

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: