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  • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
    Oh no, Hitler could never be a christian just because he went on about jesus all the time! Hitler must be a member of whatever group I am currently vilifying today!
    sooo you have a problem with the tibetian mountain climbers looking for the holy grail club of '39? Or the TMCLFTHG Club, for short

    defiantly an athiest though he did seem to have a thing for holy artifacts that shouldnt exist......

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    • Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
      sooo you have a problem with the tibetian mountain climbers looking for the holy grail club of '39? Or the TMCLFTHG Club, for short

      defiantly an athiest though he did seem to have a thing for holy artifacts that shouldnt exist......
      Hate gays? Hitler was a secret gay! Hate jews? Hitler was a secret jew? Hate moustaches? MOUSTACHES LEAD TO GENOCIDE!

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      • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
        Hate gays? Hitler was a secret gay! Hate jews? Hitler was a secret jew? Hate moustaches? MOUSTACHES LEAD TO GENOCIDE!
        HATE Athiests? Hitler was a secret athiest!!!!

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        • Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
          HATE Athiests? Hitler was a secret athiest!!!!
          Very secret!

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            • Originally posted by TheAuthority View Post
              The cartoon refers to the Nazi slogan "Got mitt uns" (God with us). Well, not even the Pope is so haughty to state or just think that God is "with him". God judges every single person as an individual, regardless of his political party.
              So, according to the commandment that says "Do not take the name of the Lord in vain", Hitler's slogan was pure blasphemy, for it is obvious that the slogan's aim was marely political/propagandistic.

              Squealpiggy, you said you were raised a catholic: does that make you a catholic yet? Same goes for Hitler: he was raised a catholic (as catholicism was and still is the main belief in Europe), and ended up ordering the murder of priests and the annihilation of churches.

              He also put up a fake religion called "Positive Christianity", in which he assetrted that Jesus was an Arian. That is what the Church recognises as "Heresy".
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

              He finally practiced occultism.
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_occultism

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Nazism
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_religion

              Let's sum it up: Hitler has been a blasphemous, a heretic, and an occultist. Much worse than a simple non-believer.
              Thanks for correcting me, Squealpiggy.
              Last edited by Nick Name; 03-01-2011, 11:33 AM.

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              • As for his fellows, let's bring in some quotes:

                1)
                In 1941, Martin Bormann, a close associate of Hitler said publicly "National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable".[51] In 1942 he also declared in a confidential memo to Gauleiters that the Christian Churches 'must absolutely and finally be broken.' Thus it is evident that he believed Nazism, based as it was on a 'scientific' world-view, to be completely incompatible with Christianity.


                2)
                Other members of the Hitler government, including Rosenberg, during the war formulated a thirty-point program for the "National Reich Church" which included:
                The National Reich Church claims exclusive right and control over all Churches.
                The National Church is determined to exterminate foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.
                The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible.
                The National Church will clear away from its altars all Crucifixes, Bibles and pictures of Saints.
                On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf and to the left of the altar a sword.[54


                3)
                From the mid 1930s, anti-Christian elements within the Nazi party became more prominent - they were restrained by Hitler, who thought religion would die by itself as science advanced.[11] Nevertheless the Party began to suppress religious teaching, closed religious youth movements and excluded religious instruction from the Hitler Youth. The public collection of money for religious charities was forbidden. In 1937 all confessing church seminaries and teaching was banned. Dissident Protestants were forbidden to attend universities, and state-sponsored denominational and private religious schools were closed. During Hitler's dictatorship, more than 6,000 clergymen, on the charge of treasonable activity, were imprisoned or executed.[11] The same measures were taken in the occupied territories, in French Lorraine, the Nazis forbid religious youth movements, parish meetings, scout meetings, and church assets were taken. Church schools were closed, and teachers in religious orders were dismissed. The episcopal seminary was closed, and the SA and SS desecrated churches, religious statutes and pictures; 300 clergy were expelled from the Lorraine region, monks and nuns were deported or forced to renounce their vows.


                source:
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_religion
                Last edited by Nick Name; 03-01-2011, 12:34 PM.

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                • Originally posted by TheAuthority View Post
                  "Well he didnt realllyyy believe in god"

                  LOL

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                  • Here's some more:

                    National Socialism is a religion, born out of blood and race, not a political
                    world-view. It is the new, alone true religion, born out of a Nordic spirit and
                    an Aric soul. The religions still existing must disappear as soon as possible. If they do not dissolve themselves the state has to destroy them.

                    Lecture at a course for the few leaders of the youth of the German states, quoted from Johann Neuhäuser, Kreuz und Hakenkreuz, part 1 (München: Verlag Katholische Kirche Bayerns, 1946), p. 261.



                    Who was greater,
                    Christ or Hitler? By (the time of) His death Christ had twelve disciples, who
                    even did not stay faithful. But Hitler today has a people of 70 million behind
                    him. We cannot tolerate that another organisation, which has another spirit
                    than ours, should come into existence. National Socialism seriously lays this
                    claim: I am the Lord, your God, you shall have no other Gods beside me ...
                    Our is the kingdom, because we have a strong army ("Wehrmacht"), and the
                    glory, because we are a respected people again, and this, of God wants it, 'in
                    eternity'. Heil Hitler.

                    SS-Obergruppenführer Schulz, quoted from Johann Neuhäuser, Kreuz und Hakenkreuz, p. 255.



                    Immediate and unconditional abolition of all religions after the final victory
                    ('Endsieg') not only for the territory of Greater Germany but also for all
                    released, occupied and annexed countries ..., proclaiming at the same time
                    Hitler as the new messiah. Out of political considerations the Muslim,
                    Buddhist and Shintoist religion will be spared for the present. The 'Führer' has
                    to be presented as an intermediate between a redeemer and a liberator, yet
                    surely as one sent by God, who has to get godly honour. The existing
                    churches, chapels, temples and cult places of the different religions have to be
                    changed into 'Adolf-Hitler-consecration places'. The theological faculties of
                    the universities have to be transformed into the new faith. Special emphasis
                    has to be lain on the education of missionaries and wandering preachers, who
                    have to proclaim the teaching in Greater Germany and in the rest of the world
                    and have to form religious bodies, which can be used as centres for further
                    extension. (With this the problems with the abolition of monogamy will
                    disappear, because polygamy can be included into the new teaching as one of
                    the statements of faith.)


                    Quoted from the photo of the original in Wilfried Daim, Der Mann, der Hitler die Ideen gab (Wien: Böhlau Verlag, 1985), pp. 216-218 (an official document signed by Adolf Hitler).

                    Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                    The Nazis (or at least Hitler) did respect Jesus' words.
                    The Eminent Prof. Squealpiggy's latest lecture.

                    Hey Squealpiggy... Keep on educating us naive myth-believers.
                    Last edited by Nick Name; 03-01-2011, 12:28 PM.

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