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  • !! Anorak
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    John Ruiz: WBA's uncrowned king finally deposed

    Just watched Ruiz vs. Chagaev, which was fairly decent by his standards.

    I always had Ruiz as the real WBA champ (believing he beat Valuev), but last night even though he did better on the cards (one judge giving it to him 115-114, making it a SD loss) he was definitely outpointed.

    I had John edging all of the last four rounds as Chagaev tired and should, ironically, have had a point taken for excessive holding. Despite this, my card still had Chagaev the 115-113 winner, and it could have been wider.

    John - his face, as always, oddly reminiscent of a gorilla's vagina - didn't hold as much as usual, but showed he'd learned something from that Holyfield trilogy by introducing Chagaev to his head as often as possible.

    It was a hard-fought bout, so Chagaev's severe drop off in workrate towards the end perhaps shouldn't be counted too harshly against him, and let's not forget that in the modern age John Ruiz IS a legitimate top ten heavyweight, and still is.

    Chagaev looks unlikely to possess any skill that would get him past Valuev (for which this was the eliminator) but could perhaps take the likes of Maskaev should he be given the opportunity.
  • MrFactor
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    "John - his face, as always, oddly reminiscent of a gorilla's vagina "

    That is the funniest line I've heard in years. I'm still laughing outloud. Damn, too f'n funny!!!! BTW, who reminisces about gorilla vaginas anyway... And why... Hmmm...

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    • Nautilus
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      #3
      Originally posted by !! Anorak
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      Chagaev looks unlikely to possess any skill that would get him past Valuev (for which this was the eliminator)


      Chagaev beat Savon twice in the amateurs.


      I think it takes exteremely good skills to beat Ruiz, and Chagaev does have them.

      Recall Toney beat Ruiz wtih scores --- 111-116 111-116 112-115

      while Chagev won with scores --- 111-117 115-114 112-116.

      Thus, Chagaev did about as well against Ruiz as Toney did.

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      • !! Anorak
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        I actually thought the Toney fight was closer than the scores had it, Ruiz was bound to be stiffed that night.

        Don't forget Toney didn't actually beat Ruiz... it was a NC.

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        • Nautilus
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          #5
          Originally posted by !! Anorak
          I actually thought the Toney fight was closer than the scores had it, Ruiz was bound to be stiffed that night.

          Don't forget Toney didn't actually beat Ruiz... it was a NC.

          I know, but the point was about skill

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          • !! Anorak
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            Originally posted by Nautilus
            I know, but the point was about skill
            No, I take your point, I'm actually backing you up. I'm saying that he virtually equalled Toney's performance but WITHOUT the use of illegal substances.

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            • plhare
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              #7
              Anorak did you get your site up and running after the whole ESPN fiasco?

              I am also glad to see ruiz on the downside,a nd hopefully the end, of his career. But, there does not seem to be better talent out there right now.

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              • !! Anorak
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                You mean the fight last week? No, I'm still trying to get my cash back. They're trying to tell me I watched the fight even though I went to bed 2 hours before ti started.

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                • !! Anorak
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                  ... they've just refunded me, it's all good.

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                  • Parody
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                    #10
                    The Batty Count?

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