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  • Abe Attell
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    #21
    WOW, what an over reaction to this win:

    IF Floyd was at 130, Pac would be beaten, and Morales would have beaten as well, all 3 times.

    Morales, went to Auschwitz to get his weight down...on top of that, he has been through many wars.

    It was a good win, but not something that should be overstated like he is a "legend" killer, unless you want to put him on that level of Tarver when he beat a shot Roy Jones Jr.

    Like I said many times before, if they wanted a better victory, Freddie should have not argued to make the weight at 130, and should have let Eric come in healthier. Eric has one disadvantage already from having been in to many wars, now you want him to come in without any weapons as well, cong**** on such a victory.
    Last edited by Abe Attell; 11-19-2006, 03:02 AM.

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    • AREALFIGHTER
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      #22
      Originally posted by Rudypoop
      So you call him a pansy because he is levels above his competition and doesn't need to brawl to win fights convincingly? Stop listening to Larry Merchant... I bet you were one of those people who hated B-Hop before but now you are all over his nuts.

      Not really because Hop had a bad attitude and would prove it.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Abe Attell
        WOW, what an over reaction to this win:

        IF Floyd was at 130, Pac would be beaten, and Morales would have beaten as well, all 3 times.

        Morales, went to Auschwitz to get his weight down...on top of that, he has been through many wars.

        It was a good win, but not something that should be overstated like he is a "legend" killer, unless you want to put him on that level of Tarver when he beat a shot Roy Jones Jr.

        Like I said many times before, if they wanted a better victory, Freddie should have not argued to make the weight at 130, and should have let Eric come in healthier. Eric has one disadvantage already from having been in to many wars, now you want him to come in without any weapons as well, cong**** on such a victory.
        That was exactly the point of leaving it all to Morales if he wants the rubber match in the first place, and that is exactly the same advantage they allowed Morales to be when the Pacquiao camp allowed Morales to weigh in at an extra 2 pounds.

        If Roach allowed Morales to come in at more than 2 pounds or heavier, then they should eliminate weight classes as well.

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        • Azteca
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          #24
          i agree. the fact of the matter is that pac is fighting the best, mayweather is not. pac is challenging himself and mayweather is content just to make money.

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          • Abe Attell
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            #25
            Yes, I blame Morales for taking the fight, but isn't it a bit hypocritical that Freddie's fighter come in at 144 on the day of the fight?

            Morales had to shed muscle to make the weight, not water.

            But the blame is still on Morales for taking the fight.

            I just want to see two healthy fighters stepping into the ring.

            And my point with the weight class was that it is only fair if both fighters way the same on fight night, this wasn't the case, was it?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Azteca
              i agree. the fact of the matter is that pac is fighting the best, mayweather is not. pac is challenging himself and mayweather is content just to make money.
              I think Pac is trying to fight the best, but he really isn't doing that when you look at the situation:

              Fighting a deflated Morales isn't much of a risk for Pac...

              Oscar, despite his many years in boxing, declined speed, is still better at this point of his career than Morales...Oscar also doesn't have to worry about making weight since he will be fighting at his matured body weight where he feels strong.

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              • AREALFIGHTER
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                #27
                Originally posted by Abe Attell
                Yes, I blame Morales for taking the fight, but isn't it a bit hypocritical that Freddie's fighter come in at 144 on the day of the fight?

                Morales had to shed muscle to make the weight, not water.

                But the blame is still on Morales for taking the fight.

                I just want to see two healthy fighters stepping into the ring.

                And my point with the weight class was that it is only fair if both fighters way the same on fight night, this wasn't the case, was it?
                However moralis started his carrer at a much lighter weight as did Pac. I think maybe ER has a bigger bone structure as pack even thow pack looked stronger than morales. I do not think pac would have a big problem going to 126. Morales may be bigger but man he fought much lighter in the past, and he is only 3 years older than Pac. They say that MAB and Morales have been in a lot of wars, this is true, However, who is to say what impact these had on ethier mans career. I think Manny beat fighters that could not do what they did to other fighters when they faced Pac. I will Say this Morales was more drained for the second fight than for this won.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by AREALFIGHTER
                  However moralis started his carrer at a much lighter weight as did Pac. I think maybe ER has a bigger bone structure as pack even thow pack looked stronger than morales. I do not think pac would have a big problem going to 126. Morales may be bigger but man he fought much lighter in the past, and he is only 3 years older than Pac. They say that MAB and Morales have been in a lot of wars, this is true, However, who is to say what impact these had on ethier mans career. I think Manny beat fighters that could not do what they did to other fighters when they faced Pac. I will Say this Morales was more drained for the second fight than for this won.
                  Morales was able to fight lighter in the past because he was younger, He just couldn't make the weight and be healthy anymore, he just didn't have it in his legs anymore.

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                    #29
                    LMAO, Mayweather at 130 would box the hell out of MAB, or Morales. Especially a finished Morales. I wouldn't say today's Mayweather since he has bad hands.

                    Mayweather at any weight would box circles around Barrera and Morales. He would beat Pacquiao, Morales, and Barrera at 130.

                    The titles do mean something. Your saying Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, and DeMarcus Corley are nobodies. Mayweather has more impressive in his career than Pacquiao. Pacquiao gets a win over a finished Hall of famer and u put him ahead of Floyd? GET THE **** OUTTA HERE.

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                    • AREALFIGHTER
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                      #30
                      Ok, you may have a point, but, however, Morales looked in better shape in this fight, than the last fight when they met. Did Morales move beyond the weight, maybe. Morales had a good period for him to get his body adjusted to 130, and he did it the correct way. Morales is not old by any standard, But his career is waning, but he is in no way shot or even realy shop worn in my opinion. He has a lot of miles on his motor no doubt but he is still ERIK MORALES, ya know.

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