I Hate the Thought of Public Scoring!

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  • DLT
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    I Hate the Thought of Public Scoring!

    Why do so many of you like this? I think this is horrible for boxing. I think anything that changes the way people will fight is bad because to me there will be some fights we wouldve never known how it will have turned out.

    Lets just take 2 guys like Floyd & Margarito. Lets say they had a regular fight in which everyone thought Floyd won but the judges gave it to Margarito. That means Floyd lost the fight but the public thinks he won and I think that is more important.

    Now what if we wouldve had that same fight but the scoring was public? After the 8th round, Floyd see's that he's getting robbed so he starts to change his style and starts brawling with Margarito and gets KO. There will be alot of people bragging about how Margarito KO Floyd but in reality it wouldve never even went down that way if the Floyd didnt change his style for the judges.

    Alot of you on here have already talked about the cruising effect. Guys will see that they have a comfertable lead and then you know there corner will tell them to play it safe. Its ******.

    another problem I have with it is that it will effect a fighters mind and you dont want that in boxing. Think about the NBA. Think about when a player thinks he is continually getting fouled but the ref wont call it. It effects alot of guys, there mind is out the game, and they start playing horrible and crying to the ref.

    Now imagine a guy who thinks he is up by 3 rounds. Then he sees the cards and they say that he is actually down by 3. He will then start looking around in disgust and start crying to his corner and looking at the judges. He will be worrying more about the judges then his opponent just like NBA players do. He wont know what to do. He will completely have to turn into a fighter that he's not. He'll be thinking to himself that he doesnt know what the judges want and obviously they want completely the opposite so he will start doing things he doesnt normally do. You will also hear a ton of fighters talk about it in the post fight comments. They will talk about how they had a game plan but the judges werent rewarding them for it so they had to fight totally different.

    There are some positives like, you can see if a judge is ripping off a fighter and maybe there will be alot less bad decisions but I still dont like it. This will get ugly. I dont think we should do anything to change the way a guy fights. Its disturbing and could be very dangerous
    Last edited by DLT; 11-17-2006, 06:53 PM.
  • Kball15
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    #2
    your thinking to much into. Its just to inform the fans on who is really winning the fight, and to get the losing fighter to try harder.

    Its only good for the sport. More action sells tickets and thats exactly what you'll get with the new scoring.

    And lets not forget, a Professional boxer is among the most disaplined people on earth. If they were gonna cry and complain in the ring, they would have done it without the scoring

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    • Abe Attell
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      #3
      The problem is the judges themselves: we need to know they are of quality, knowing their sport that they judge, and not some person they picked off the street who needed money to support their drug habbit.

      They should get a written test, physical, and be judged themselves.

      I sometimes imagine with the scores I see from some of these people, that if you ask them, "how do you score your boxing?", they would reply "Boxing???, you mean we aren't playing bingo?"
      Last edited by Abe Attell; 11-17-2006, 04:43 PM.

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      • Mech.
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        #4
        Now imagine a guy who thinks he is up by 3 rounds. Then he sees the cards and they say that he is actually down by 3. He will then start looking around in disgust and start crying to his corner and looking at the judges. He wont know what to do. He will completely have to turn into a fighter that he's not. He'll be thinking to himself that he doesnt know what the judges want and obviously they want completely the opposite so he will start doing things he doesnt normally do. You will also hear a ton of fighters talk about it in the post fight comments. They will talk about how they had a game plan but the judges werent rewarding them for it so they had to fight totally different.
        Thats a good point,hadnt thought of it like that.Like finding out you got robbed during the fight instead of after its over.

        Still,you could argue that the fighter at least had a chance to do something about it during the fight,whereas if he finds out when its over theres nothing to do.

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        • Kball15
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          #5
          Every judge should be rated by the fans via online or a poll that those in attendance take, and that rating should follow the judges around for the rest of their careers. It would make them easier to pick and make them HAVE to be more accurate and fair if the want to keep their jobs

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          • JamesMc
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            #6
            i don't think it's set in stone anyway. if it doesn't work out with the wbc, which i don't see why it won't, the others won't add it anyway. at least they're doing all they can to improve the sport. if it doesn't work out, oh well. they'll just go bak to old style

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            • The Noose
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              #7
              One of the worst things about boxing is the bad decisions. It will help lessen them plus it will highlight poor judging.

              And making the fighters actually FIGHT can only be a good thing. There can be no more bull**** talk after the fight where the loser repeats "I WON THE FIGHT".
              More knockouts. Better judging (hopefully). Less excuses.

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              • IwatchBoxing
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                #8
                I was thinking the same thing, they could torment the fighters, knowing their being unjustly scored or they could use scoring as a well to dictate the action inside the ring. Unless if the corner is the one who gets the result and the fighter stays blind to the fact.

                for open scoring...
                Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 11-17-2006, 05:38 PM.

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                • Del Coqui
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Abe Attell
                  The problem is the judges themselves: we need to know they are of quality, knowing their sport that they judge, and not some person they picked off the street who needed money to support their drug habbit.

                  They should get a written test, physical, and be judged themselves.

                  I sometimes imagine with the scores I see from some of these people, that if you ask them, "how do you score your boxing?", they would reply "Boxing???, you mean we aren't playing bingo?"
                  Good points, but money has a way of wiping all those testings away. With the scoring system, maybe a comissioner or some one from the organization might be able to ask the judge what fight are they looking at in case of a robbed fight.

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