Dont give up on sturm yet

[AintGottaClue]

He's not done yet, he made a huge mental error and got embarrassed at home but if he can pull it together he can be champ at 160, he's got all the skills, so dont hate or write him off just now

[JamesMc]

he better be ready to defend in the US if he ever is champ again. if you can't win in your home country, more times than not you're not going to win here either imo.

[AintGottaClue]

he better be ready to defend in the US if he ever is champ again. if you can't win in your home country, more times than not you're not going to win here either imo.

he probally couldnt win in the US anyway (view DLH fight) theres always a chance though

[JamesMc]

haha true that, but my point is noone is going to give him a shot in his home country. pavlik/ronald/miranda will soon become champs after jermain moves up. personally i want to see pavlik destroy ronald and be done with it, until he moves up to 168. and let's face it. unless sam soliman loses tomorrow, he deserves a shot more than sturm, and would probably beat him imo. a sturm/soliman eliminator in the US would be good for a match with castill. it will be hard for sturm to "earn" another title though. i can't see him getting a rematch right away with castill. he doesn't deserve one

[AintGottaClue]

haha true that, but my point is noone is going to give him a shot in his home country. pavlik/ronald/miranda will soon become champs after jermain moves up. personally i want to see pavlik destroy ronald and be done with it, until he moves up to 168. and let's face it. unless sam soliman loses tomorrow, he deserves a shot more than sturm, and would probably beat him imo. a sturm/soliman eliminator in the US would be good for a match with castill. it will be hard for sturm to "earn" another title though. i can't see him getting a rematch right away with castill. he doesn't deserve one

he'll be getting one if they both win on dec 2, and now that sturm lost if he gets his wba belt back, that lose might motivate him more to come over to the US

[Kayo]

Sturm wont be back end of story. Him getting knocked out should be played on funniest home video's

[$ LegenD $]

he lost to castillejo who clearly could not **** in the us.....its over...at least he's still young but i doubt he can hang with taylor, miranda, abraham, pavlik, & wright......

[DiegoFuego]

he lost to Castillejo by KO. he's finished.

[flipside]

he lost to Castillejo by KO. he's finished.

i though that's why he changed his name to pacrules