40th Anniversary of Muhammad Ali-Cleveland Williams

[Verstyle]

i'll sue u for stealing my trademark

[Truth]

I wish ESPN classic would show ringside Muhammad Ali soon, I want to tape that.

[butterfly1964]

I wish ESPN classic would show ringside Muhammad Ali soon, I want to tape that.

Also ESPN Classic doesn't show Ali-Williams at all. I don't know why, though.

[TheEvilSaint]

cleveland williams was a tragic underachiever with a weak chin. he had plenty of courage, power, and decent enough skill. too bad this massacre is the only thing hes remembered for.

[butterfly1964]

cleveland williams was a tragic underachiever with a weak chin. he had plenty of courage, power, and decent enough skill. too bad this massacre is the only thing hes remembered for.

I don't think his chin was that weak. Besides Ali only Liston and Mac Foster ko'd him, and they both are murderous punchers.

[TheEvilSaint]

I don't think his chin was that weak. Besides Ali only Liston and Mac Foster ko'd him, and they both are murderous punchers.

liston (twice), mac foster (twice), bob satterfield, muhammad ali, al jones, and alvin lewis all stopped williams.

[butterfly1964]

liston (twice), mac foster (twice), bob satterfield, muhammad ali, al jones, and alvin lewis all stopped williams.

Well, he was too green against Satterfield, and Satterfield was a good experienced opponent. And Foster, Jones, and Lewis got him when he was completely washed up. And he was also past it vs. Ali, so only Liston ko'd him in his prime, which is nothing to be ashamed of. Also Ali beat a decent version of him.

[TheEvilSaint]

Well, he was too green against Satterfield, and Satterfield was a good experienced opponent. And Foster, Jones, and Lewis got him when he was completely washed up. And he was also past it vs. Ali, so only Liston ko'd him in his prime, which is nothing to be ashamed of. Also Ali beat a decent version of him.

they still stopped him.

[butterfly1964]

bump......

[Kid Achilles]

Williams had a mediocre chin for sure. If you can argue Williams had a strong chin, you can argue the same about ANYONE who supposedly had chin problems. Butterfly, you claim that Jersey Joe Walcott had a glass chin yet I'd rate his chin as no worse than William's. Now I don't think Williams had a glass chin but he was not a durable heavyweight. He would get blown out fby a good punch by Marciano, Dempsey, Louis, Foreman, etc.

I'd just like to add that Satterfield was a diesel puncher; I'd say he hit every bit as hard as Liston, regardless of his weight.