Can Holyfield make History?

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  • Parody
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    Can Holyfield make History?

    I know he already has, but can he do it again? If he wins a World Title he would be a world heavyweight champion 5 times, and a world champion 6 times, and would be the oldest HW champion in history.
  • DiegoFuego
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    all he has to do is beat 1 of the 4 worst heavyweight champions of all time. it's way more than just a possibility at this point. it's almost likely.

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    • K-DOGG
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      No.

      Holyfield is only a 2 time champion and would have to beat all 4 to become the undisputed champion, or, at the very least, Wladimir, Maskaev, and Briggs to tie history set by Muhammad Ali in 1978.

      Then, he'd have to retire and win the titles all over again.

      Or, he'd have to win the title in two years after he's older than George Foreman to be the Oldest man to win the world championship.


      So, in short, no....the odds are too long against him; and while I'd give him a chance to beat Briggs, Maskaev, and Valuev.....you'll see the Devil walking around in an overcoat before you see Holyfield beat Wladimir Klitschko.

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      • Parody
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        #4
        Originally posted by K-DOGG
        No.

        Holyfield is only a 2 time champion and would have to beat all 4 to become the undisputed champion, or, at the very least, Wladimir, Maskaev, and Briggs to tie history set by Muhammad Ali in 1978.

        Then, he'd have to retire and win the titles all over again.

        Or, he'd have to win the title in two years after he's older than George Foreman to be the Oldest man to win the world championship.


        So, in short, no....the odds are too long against him; and while I'd give him a chance to beat Briggs, Maskaev, and Valuev.....you'll see the Devil walking around in an overcoat before you see Holyfield beat Wladimir Klitschko.

        Holyfield was the undisputed cruiserweight champion defended his titles a few times, became the 2 time undisputed champion and won the title 2 times again that makes him a 4 time HW champion, you dont have to be undisputed to be considered champion, Foreman was 45 when he beat Moorer, Holyfield is 44 and will probably get his title shot next year.

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        • K-DOGG
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          #5
          Originally posted by Parody
          Holyfield was the undisputed cruiserweight champion defended his titles a few times, became the 2 time undisputed champion and won the title 2 times again that makes him a 4 time HW champion, you dont have to be undisputed to be considered champion, Foreman was 45 when he beat Moorer, Holyfield is 44 and will probably get his title shot next year.
          No, I strongly disagree with the emboldend. Recognizing paper reigns as "championship reigns" cheapens the very notion of being a champion and the accomplishements of those who did it the hard way.

          No, Holyfield is ONLY a two time world heavyweight champion....anything else is bull****.

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          • Parody
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            #6
            Originally posted by K-DOGG
            No, I strongly disagree with the emboldend. Recognizing paper reigns as "championship reigns" cheapens the very notion of being a champion and the accomplishements of those who did it the hard way.

            No, Holyfield is ONLY a two time world heavyweight champion....anything else is bull****.
            then Wlad is'nt even a champion once if you look at it that way

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            • Kid Achilles
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              #7
              Holyfield is a two time undisputed HW champion. End of discussion.

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              • Kid Achilles
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                #8
                You're correct, Wladimir was never HW champion.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  then Wlad is'nt even a champion once if you look at it that way
                  BINGO!!

                  Now you're getting it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by K-DOGG
                    BINGO!!

                    Now you're getting it.

                    Exactly.

                    The last HW champ was Lennox lewis, we haven't seen one since.

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