Klitschko's Size Don't Matter For Calvin Brock

[amagnin]

WHY???? Who da **** is Toney and what has he done at HW to garnish such a measuring stick? James Toney is lower then the half digested corn sticking out a pile of dog****

Normally I would agree with you but look at his results in the HW division. He beat Ruiz (yes he tested positive for steroids), he drew with Rahman, and he had a competitive fight with Peter. That means that he has performed relatively well against the top HW opponents. In today's HW division that makes you legit. Also I wouldn't call what Klitschko did against Peter courageous or a show of heart. None of the KD's were particularly violent and all he did afterwards was survive. Brock got up and won the rest of the fight including that round and he was almost out when he hit the canvas.

[leff]

WHY???? Who da **** is Toney and what has he done at HW to garnish such a measuring stick? James Toney is lower then the half digested corn sticking out a pile of dog****

if he is impressed by toney and not wlad...............just let him be

[leff]

Normally I would agree with you but look at his results in the HW division. He beat Ruiz (yes he tested positive for steroids), he drew with Rahman, and he had a competitive fight with Peter. That means that he has performed relatively well against the top HW opponents. In today's HW division that makes you legit. Also I wouldn't call what Klitschko did against Peter courageous or a show of heart. None of the KD's were particularly violent and all he did afterwards was survive. Brock got up and won the rest of the fight including that round and he was almost out when he hit the canvas.

peter was clearly outboxed and two off the kds were bull****

[STEELHEAD]

i've always verbally abused the klits.never thought i'd be looking forward to a klitmoe fight.but with the circus atmosphere surrounding all the clowns in the weak hvwt division when you look at them as comedic characters i'm able to sit back and chortle.
after frankenklit beats brock i want to see him fight valuev. i want to see if valuev can shed his gentle giant ways and go ballistic against klitmoe. and then see toney get a title shot after he somehow beats club fighter peter.
i keep hearing the three stooges theme song whenever i read or watch things haveing to do with the hvywts.

[amagnin]

peter was clearly outboxed and two off the kds were bull****

You got it all wrong about my opinion. I clearly favor Klitschko to win the fight and I consider him the best of the current HW champions or contenders. The Peter discussion came up in the context that I gave Brock his only advantage over Klitschko in the heart department because of the respective ways they reacted after being KD in their fights against Peter and McCline. Somebody said that Peter hadn't beaten anybody and somebody else responded Toney. I was simply agreeing that beating Toney in today's HW division makes you a legit contender. I would NEVER say that Toney or Peter could be Klitschko. I said IF Klitschko is to be beaten it will be by a guy more like Peter than Toney.

[dino]

i dont think brock has the style to beat klitchko..he's not going to go in there and go for the knockout..and with klitchko's style..its very hard to outpoint him

[leff]

You got it all wrong about my opinion. I clearly favor Klitschko to win the fight and I consider him the best of the current HW champions or contenders. The Peter discussion came up in the context that I gave Brock his only advantage over Klitschko in the heart department because of the respective ways they reacted after being KD in their fights against Peter and McCline. Somebody said that Peter hadn't beaten anybody and somebody else responded Toney. I was simply agreeing that beating Toney in today's HW division makes you a legit contender. I would NEVER say that Toney or Peter could be Klitschko. I said IF Klitschko is to be beaten it will be by a guy more like Peter than Toney.

okay.......my bad

[leff]

i dont think brock has the style to beat klitchko..he's not going to go in there and go for the knockout..and with klitchko's style..its very hard to outpoint him

than we finaly agree .......cheers

[potatoes]

Seriously. If you're the smaller man what do you say... "I pretty much have no chance to win unless I KO him?" Of course not you toe the company line and say that size doesn't matter, but clearly it does. Size isn't everything but it surely shouldn't be discounted as ONE factor. Then consider that Klitschko has the advantage in pretty much every other physical category except defense and heart (defense about equal, heart I'll give to Brock because of McCline).

Do you see the his fight against McCline? Brock didn't really have any idea how to take away the size advantage, all he did was out work him. I don't know if that was the plan, but certainly I don't agree with it. Klitschko is a better opponent so Brock had better form a better strategy otherwise he will be going home early.

[amagnin]

okay.......my bad

No need to apologize I just wanted to clarify. But I do have a question...in today's HW division do you consider Toney a contender or not? IMO he is simply because of the weakness in the division and the fact that he has defense, chin, and boxing skills.