Yes I really want to see this fight. How many times do you have two undefeated fighters fight for an undisputed championship? I hope Calzaghe gives in, unless hes fighting Hopkins.
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American Boxing fans, does a Calzaghe vs Kessler fight not interest you?
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Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES View PostKessler's a good robot, but he's yet to fight anybody. Manny Siaca and Markus Beyer were the weakest title holders in boxing, and Carl Froch beat Porras more convincingly even with two fractured hands.
Calzaghe has fought far better opposition in Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer and Mitchell. Veit was supposed to be the 'next big thing' in Germany .
Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer,Mitchell, Veit
Calzaghe-Eubank
When a bored Steve Collins retired from boxing rather than face the 'undeserving' Calzaghe, Eubank was drafted in as a replacement on a week's notice to meet Joe for the vacant WBO title... Eubank was due to fight at light heavyweight on the card and, two years removed from the super-middleweight division, probably was weight-drained...Nevertheless, an untested 25-year-old Calzaghe proved that his punch was for real by decking 'Simply the Best' in the opening seconds and went on to prove his stamina, speed, skills and chin, too, in taking a one-sided decision over the 31-year-old legend...The Eubank nearly beat cruiserweight Carl Thompson in his next two fights underlines the greatness of Calzaghe's performance... It was just about as impressive a debut as a fighter can make on the world scene.
Calzaghe - Reid
Hot and cold former WBC champ Reid was a tough opponent, esp considering Calzaghe was coming off a 10 month lay-off... Calzaghe started extremely well, sweeping the first three or four rounds with his speed and sharp southpaw jab... However, his left hand "went" in the fifth and Reid began to slam home huge right hands to the Welshman's skull...Reid landed the harder shots in the second half of a cracking fight... Some believe to this day that Reid deserved more than a split decision... I'm not one of them (I scored it 116-113 to Joe C) but, for whatever the reason, there was never a rematch and that's a black mark against Calzaghe
Calzaghe - Woodhall
A very good win over former WBC champ Woodhall... however, the Telford boxer was coming off a loss to Markus Beyer in his last major bout where he got dropped three times in the opening round... The fight would have meant so much more if only it had been a unification bout... Nevertheless, an impressive win which sent Woodhall into retirement
Calzaghe - Brewer
Former IBF champion Brewer turned pro in 1989 and had seen better days by the time he travelled to Wales to face Calzaghe... Brewer was 2-2 in his last four going in...I expected Joe to blast him out, quite honestly, as this was half a decade on from Brewer's shaky performance against aged non-puncher Herol Graham... nevertheless, Brewer took everything Joe threw at him and, while Calzaghe was a clear points winner, it was a good brawl.
Calzaghe - Mitchell
A return to proper world championship boxing - and how... after winning the opening round Calzaghe is decked for the first time ever - and hard - by the ex-WBA champ... badly hurt, Joe C nevertheless fights fire with fire and drops Mitchell seconds later... chasing the American to the ropes, Joe forces a (slightly premature) stoppage in the very same round... Mitchell was (you guessed it) coming off a loss, albeit a controversial one to Ottke in a IBF/WBA unification match...Mitchell hasn't fought since.
Calzaghe - Veit
Another fight Calzaghe had to take if he wanted to keep hold of his WBO belt... Calzaghe's promoter Frank Warren was surprisingly outbid for the fight and Calzaghe had to go to Germany for this rematch... Joe looked like he was forcing his work but a win in Germany is nothing to be sniffed at
Calzaghe has also fought and beaten some decent 'marking time' or subsidiary opponents like Mkrtchian but then there's the sheer woefulness of the Sobots, McIntyres and Pudwills, men Calzaghe shouldn't even entertain as sparring partners
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Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES View PostI'd rather fight Hopkins or Taylor if I was Calzaghe, at MSG.
The Kessler guy is just another average super-middleweight who doesn't mean anything outside of Denmark, until he proves himself or whatever.
yea kessler is an average supermiddleweight but calzaghe isnt much better.
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Originally posted by jangeorg View PostEubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer,Mitchell, Veit
Calzaghe-Eubank
When a bored Steve Collins retired from boxing rather than face the 'undeserving' Calzaghe, Eubank was drafted in as a replacement on a week's notice to meet Joe for the vacant WBO title... Eubank was due to fight at light heavyweight on the card and, two years removed from the super-middleweight division, probably was weight-drained...Nevertheless, an untested 25-year-old Calzaghe proved that his punch was for real by decking 'Simply the Best' in the opening seconds and went on to prove his stamina, speed, skills and chin, too, in taking a one-sided decision over the 31-year-old legend...The Eubank nearly beat cruiserweight Carl Thompson in his next two fights underlines the greatness of Calzaghe's performance... It was just about as impressive a debut as a fighter can make on the world scene.
Calzaghe - Reid
Hot and cold former WBC champ Reid was a tough opponent, esp considering Calzaghe was coming off a 10 month lay-off... Calzaghe started extremely well, sweeping the first three or four rounds with his speed and sharp southpaw jab... However, his left hand "went" in the fifth and Reid began to slam home huge right hands to the Welshman's skull...Reid landed the harder shots in the second half of a cracking fight... Some believe to this day that Reid deserved more than a split decision... I'm not one of them (I scored it 116-113 to Joe C) but, for whatever the reason, there was never a rematch and that's a black mark against Calzaghe
Calzaghe - Woodhall
A very good win over former WBC champ Woodhall... however, the Telford boxer was coming off a loss to Markus Beyer in his last major bout where he got dropped three times in the opening round... The fight would have meant so much more if only it had been a unification bout... Nevertheless, an impressive win which sent Woodhall into retirement
Calzaghe - Brewer
Former IBF champion Brewer turned pro in 1989 and had seen better days by the time he travelled to Wales to face Calzaghe... Brewer was 2-2 in his last four going in...I expected Joe to blast him out, quite honestly, as this was half a decade on from Brewer's shaky performance against aged non-puncher Herol Graham... nevertheless, Brewer took everything Joe threw at him and, while Calzaghe was a clear points winner, it was a good brawl.
Calzaghe - Mitchell
A return to proper world championship boxing - and how... after winning the opening round Calzaghe is decked for the first time ever - and hard - by the ex-WBA champ... badly hurt, Joe C nevertheless fights fire with fire and drops Mitchell seconds later... chasing the American to the ropes, Joe forces a (slightly premature) stoppage in the very same round... Mitchell was (you guessed it) coming off a loss, albeit a controversial one to Ottke in a IBF/WBA unification match...Mitchell hasn't fought since.
Calzaghe - Veit
Another fight Calzaghe had to take if he wanted to keep hold of his WBO belt... Calzaghe's promoter Frank Warren was surprisingly outbid for the fight and Calzaghe had to go to Germany for this rematch... Joe looked like he was forcing his work but a win in Germany is nothing to be sniffed at
Calzaghe has also fought and beaten some decent 'marking time' or subsidiary opponents like Mkrtchian but then there's the sheer woefulness of the Sobots, McIntyres and Pudwills, men Calzaghe shouldn't even entertain as sparring partners
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This is the excuse from Joe Calzaghe in reference to not wanting to fight Kessler. he says American boxing fans arent interested. So I'm just doing a poll to see if it's more bull****
wow, look at the poll results. So much for that excuse
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Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES View PostAmerican's don't give a **** about Kessler, forget him.
They all remember Joe from his great fights on Showtime, stealing the show on the Tyson card in Denmark, the awesome war with Brewer and spectacular fight with Mitchell, etc.
You only had to watch the ITV documentary 'No ordinary Joe' to get an insight into why Calzaghe has never fought the truly top fighters and also why he has pulled out of so many fights. At one stage Warren and Enzo mentioned that Joe wanted to pull out of the Lacy fight with with 2 weeks to go. To be fair when telling the story Warren looked exasperated at the situation and had to tell Calzaghe that if he did pull out, his career was finished because he would have no more
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Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES View PostI'd rather fight Hopkins or Taylor if I was Calzaghe, at MSG.
The Kessler guy is just another average super-middleweight who doesn't mean anything outside of Denmark, until he proves himself or whatever.
Kessler used less than 2 years to unify. Calzaghe used his entire career while clinging on to his precious WBO-belt and it took Calzaghe 9 years to unify
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Big deal, it took Hopkins 7 years. How long did it take before Mayweather actually fought a unification fight?
It took Michelle Kessler 34 fights to win her title and it only took Joe 22, plus he actually fought someone worth a damn for it, so what does that prove?
Originally posted by jangeorg View PostKessler used less than 2 years to unify. Calzaghe used his entire career while clinging on to his precious WBO-belt and it took Calzaghe 9 years to unify
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