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  • The Greatest Junior Lightweights of All Time

    1. Floyd Mayweather- Statistically, Mayweather, Arguello, and Chavez are very similar. Both Chavez and Mayweather successfully defended their titles on nine different occasions during the course of three year reigns while Arguello defended his title on eight different occasions during the course of 2 ½ years. At 130 pounds Mayweather defeated four men who had either been title holders or would become organizational champions while Chavez defeated three and Arguello four. None of the aforementioned fighters officially unified the title, but Floyd fought and beat Diego Corrales who had impressively reigned as the IBF 130 pound champion for over a year prior to facing Floyd and was unjustly stripped of the title due to political shenanigans.

    Floyd should be ranked first because of his dominance at the weight, his longevity, and quality of opposition. He won the title from Genaro Hernandez, a man who had accumulated twelve title fight wins of his own and who had never lost at the weight. Then he immediately defended it against Angel Manfredy who had just stopped Gatti and who was on a 17-fight win streak. Then he dominated an undefeated Diego Corrales, a man who was viewed as one of the ten best pound for pound fighters in the world. [details]

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    Any article that doesn't put Nelson in the top 3, fails to even mention Pep and rates Corales and Freitas above Saddler isn't really worth a damn.

    Pep, Saddler, Nelson, Elorde, Arguello are all > Mayweather at 130 and I'd take their wins over Floyd's any day of the week.
    Last edited by Cletus Funk; 10-27-2006, 02:21 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cletus Funk View Post
      Any article that doesn't put Nelson in the top 3, fails to even mention Pep and rates Corales and Freitas above Saddler isn't really worth a damn.

      Pep, Saddler, Nelson, Elorde, Arguello are all > Mayweather at 130 and I'd take their wins over Floyd's any day of the week.
      Did you seriously just rate Flash Elorde above Mayweather?

      Pep, Saddler and Nelson I can see, but come on...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
        Did you seriously just rate Flash Elorde above Mayweather?

        Pep, Saddler and Nelson I can see, but come on...
        Yes I did. Floyd fans overhype his opponents at 130 beyond belief. Genaro Hernandez is the only true top class fighter that he beat at the weight and he was old. Corrales was weak as a kitten at that weight (and in fairness, wasn't truly great above it) and the rest were just good, solid opponents. There's certainly nothing there to compare with beating Saddler once and running him close a second time, along with a few other pretty good wins.
        Last edited by Cletus Funk; 10-27-2006, 03:51 AM.

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        • #5
          Its an ok list, Floyd belongs in the top 2 or 3, but fighters have had better accomplishments at that weight than Floyd.
          Corrales belongs no where near the top 5 imo.

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          • #6
            Mayweather Jr. > Arguello, Nelson, Elorde and Chavez (?)


            Elorde - 44 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions, Undisputed Jr. Lightweight champ for 7 years and 10 title defenses

            Arguello - 22 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions, Jr. Lightweight champ for 5 years and 13 title defenses

            Nelson - 24 world championship fights in 3 weight divisions, Jr. Lightweight champ for 12 years and 11 title defenses

            Chavez - 37 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions, Jr. Lightweight champ for 3 years and 9 title defenses

            PBF - 16 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions so far, Jr. Lightweight champ for 3 years and 8 title defenses



            discuss.
            Last edited by mr. bojangles; 10-27-2006, 03:56 AM.

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            • #7
              i am not questioning the article, nor the authors ranking...

              i just dont think that the article gave justice to flash elorde ...

              he mostly spend his career at this weight class and at one time declared by WBC as the greatest SFW of all time...

              on pep and sandler they are the greatest FW of all time but correct me guys if i am wrong, but i dont think they made such an impact at jr LW!?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cletus Funk View Post
                Any article that doesn't put Nelson in the top 3, fails to even mention Pep and rates Corales and Freitas above Saddler isn't really worth a damn.

                Pep, Saddler, Nelson, Elorde, Arguello are all > Mayweather at 130 and I'd take their wins over Floyd's any day of the week.
                pep? greatest 130er?

                you are a mayweather hater, and a misinformed one

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                • #9
                  jc was not even lineal champ at 130, how can he be above nelson (wrt to this weight class) is beyond me

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mr. bojangles View Post
                    Mayweather Jr. > Arguello, Nelson, Elorde and Chavez (?)


                    Elorde - 44 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions, Undisputed Jr. Lightweight champ for 7 years and 10 title defenses

                    Arguello - 22 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions, Jr. Lightweight champ for 5 years and 13 title defenses

                    Nelson - 24 world championship fights in 3 weight divisions, Jr. Lightweight champ for 12 years and 11 title defenses

                    Chavez - 37 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions, Jr. Lightweight champ for 3 years and 9 title defenses

                    PBF - 16 world championship fights in 4 weight divisions so far, Jr. Lightweight champ for 3 years and 8 title defenses



                    discuss.
                    Why are you counting OPBF and Phillipine titles as World titles? they are not. Elorde has been in 15 World championship fights if you stop including the OPBF and Phillipine titles.

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