"Haters"

[vB Martin]

You are really getting into this. I wouldn't say that Toney's power has followed him up in weight either after seeing the Booker fight.

If, as you allowed before, a torn rotator cuff was enough of an excuse for Vitali to quit and cede a World Championship, it's certainly enough of an excuse for Toney to not be able to knock out someone as lightly regarded as Rydell Booker over 12 rounds. Or is that excuse only viable for the Klits?

Plus, I already allowed for the fact that his power hasn't really been tested at heavyweight.

[Neuraxis]

If, as you allowed before, a torn rotator cuff was enough of an excuse for Vitali to quit and cede a World Championship, it's certainly enough of an excuse for Toney to not be able to knock out someone as lightly regarded as Rydell Booker over 12 rounds. Or is that excuse only viable for the Klits?

He didn't tear his rotator cuff. If he had I would have no complaints. And also its not like Booker is the defensive specialist that Byrd is.

[vB Martin]

I'm sorry, you were right. The first news reports said torn rotator cuff, but it was actually a torn tendon in his bicep:

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stories/0,1413,206~28779~2435913,00.html

[vB Martin]

well, time for me to go diving

Thank you for helping me show the proper way to argue without all the name calling

[Neuraxis]

I'm sorry, you were right. The first news reports said torn rotator cuff, but it was actually a torn tendon in his bicep:

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stor...435913,00.html

No need to apologize, I usually am right. And yes this is the correct way to aruge.

[vB Martin]

um...

You may have been right about it not being a rotator cuff, but no comment on the fact that you derided him for continuing to fight even with an injury that was similar in scope to the fighter you excused for quitting in a World Championship bout?