New ESPN rankings...

[aljon]

He's saying at welterweight...he also rates Jermain Taylor above Winky at middleweight just because he's the champ.

Yes I know, he still has some bad ratings, look at the way he rated the Jr. Middleweight division, horrible man...

[Guest]

What's your view on the fight, Pantera? Do you think Miranda was robbed, or not?

[RAESAAD]

You want to talk about getting screwed? Just watch the DVD of Miranda's Sept. 23 title challenge in Germany against Arthur Abraham. Where do we begin? The scoring was atrocious, but referee Randy Neumann was a disaster. He should be barred from ever setting foot in a ring again. Three of his point deductions were a joke. His failure to warn Abraham for excessive holding was pathetic, and his handling of the fifth-round foul/injury was horrific. Bottom line: At worst, Miranda should have won a decision. At best, he should have had a fifth-round TKO. To the credit of the IBF (yes, we said it), it left Miranda No. 1 in its rankings because it knows how poorly the fight was handled.

Thats what it said in there and you know he is'nt all wrong.......but a tad harsh.

[RAESAAD]

What's your view on the fight, Pantera? Do you think Miranda was robbed, or not?

[Guest]

What you ****in' laughin' for, dawg? I'm serious here, I wanna know the guy's opinion on the subject.

[RAESAAD]

What you ****in' laughin' for, dawg? I'm serious here, I wanna know the guy's opinion on the subject.

STFU........You know the answer to that question either that or you have been so busy enjoying my Stache for the past 3 weeks since this fight happened.They have been arguing about this for weeks and I think it was a ****ty call but **** it it's over....for now.

[Guest]

STFU........You know the answer to that question either that or you have been so busy enjoying my Stache for the past 3 weeks since this fight happened.They have been arguing about this for weeks and I think it was a ****ty call but **** it it's over....for now.

What, Pantera hasn't spoken on the subject before, has he? It's no good for me, I need 68 threads on the same subject before the poster's opinion really sinks in, you know?

[RAESAAD]

What, Pantera hasn't spoken on the subject before, has he? It's no good for me, I need 68 threads on the same subject before the poster's opinion really sinks in, you know?

[Guest]

You're some kind of piss-taking bastard, you are. I'm trying to have a serious discussion here and you're just mocking the guy.

That's it, I'm off, I'm not putting up with this any more. Though I eagerly await "why Abraham fans can't see the objective truth, like what I can: part 365478"

[RAESAAD]

You're some kind of piss-taking bastard, you are. I'm trying to have a serious discussion here and you're just mocking the guy.

That's it, I'm off, I'm not putting up with this any more. Though I eagerly await "why Abraham fans can't see the objective truth, like what I can: part 365478"

Well I agree with Pantera overall but yeah it has gone on for several parts...........